Re: [Stox] [rtcweb] Proposed message to send to the IETF rtcweb and W3C WebRTC working groups.

Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org> Mon, 22 July 2013 16:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Stox] [rtcweb] Proposed message to send to the IETF rtcweb and W3C WebRTC working groups.
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On 22.07.13, 17:44, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote:
> 2013/7/22 Daniel-Constantin Mierla <miconda@gmail.com>:
>> On 7/22/13 5:14 PM, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote:
>>>
>>> Great. First thing you should complain about is the fact that current
>>> WebRTC specification makes unfeasible for a browser to use SDP-XML as
>>> defined by XEP-0167. So if you have a SIP server you will be able to
>>> directly connect from the browser, but if you have a Jingle server you
>>> will need a gateway.
>>
>> You are obviously misinforming here. SIP is the signaling protocol and a SIP
>> server has really little to deal with SDP -- I'm sure you know that.
>
> I was talking about a SIP device also implementing WebRTC in the media
> plane. Current WebRTC spec mandates plain-SDP usage in the wire to
> signal your media description and transport/ICE information to the
> peer.

I don't think this is true. You can very well translate the SDP to 
Jingle in the browser and then only send XML on the wire.

I completely agree that this would be a pain, but there is nothing that 
"mandates" against it.

Emil

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