Re: [Stox] Instant Messaging (draft-ietf-stox-im-00) and SIP Contact header field

Saúl Ibarra Corretgé <saul@ag-projects.com> Fri, 02 August 2013 10:41 UTC

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Hi Christer,

On Aug 2, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> As I indicated at the STOX session, the SIP MESSAGE examples in the draft contain a Contact header field, which is explicitly forbidden.
> 
> Section 4 of RFC 3248 says:
> 
> 	"MESSAGE requests do not initiate dialogs.  User Agents MUST NOT 
> 	insert Contact header fields into MESSAGE requests."
> 
> My question in the meeting was whether this is simply an editorial bug, or whether the Contact header field is actually used for something (there is nothing in the normative text), e.g. to ensure that
> MESSAGE requests are routed to the correct user agents (someone mentioned that GRUU might be needed).
> 

I was the one who mentioned GRUU. We do need it if we want to know who sent the message exactly, but since the -im spec just deals with pager mode messages maybe we can live with just strangulating the bare JID. Peter?


Regards,

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Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
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