Re: [Suit] Alvaro Retana's No Objection on draft-ietf-suit-architecture-14: (with COMMENT)

Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 04 November 2020 19:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Suit] Alvaro Retana's No Objection on draft-ietf-suit-architecture-14: (with COMMENT)
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Russ:

Hi!

Yes…but the definition of a Normative reference is independent of the
status of the document. [1]

In any case, this is a non-blocking comment.  I trust the authors and the
AD to do the right thing.

Thanks!

Alvaro.


[1]
https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/


On November 4, 2020 at 1:20:16 PM, Russ Housley (housley@vigilsec.com)
wrote:

Alvaro:

It is an informational document, and many informational documents only have
informational references.

Russ


> On Nov 4, 2020, at 1:15 PM, Alvaro Retana via Datatracker <
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> Alvaro Retana has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-suit-architecture-14: No Objection
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> I was surprised to see that there no Normative references -- are there no
other
> documents required to be read to understand the architecture?
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> It seems to me that I-D.ietf-suit-information-model should be a Normative
> reference because it contains an "in-depth examination of the security
> considerations of the architecture" (this document).
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