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Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com> Wed, 27 January 2021 10:11 UTC

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From: Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com>
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, "suit@ietf.org" <suit@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Suit] architecture draft -v15
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Hi Michael,

I was wondering why you thought the document contained poor wording given the number of changes I had made. Now, I know why you thought so.

As stated in my other mail, I submitted the correct version of the draft.

Ciao
Hannes

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From: Suit <suit-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Michael Richardson
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Subject: Re: [Suit] architecture draft -v15

On 2021-01-18 1:42 a.m., Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have just submitted version 15 of the architecture draft. This
> version includes the review from the IESG and from various directorates.
>
> Reviewers requested a lot of clarifications and hence the draft
> changed quite a bit (on the editorial side). Here is the diff:

Yes, it did.  The change in the table of contents alone made me re-read it from the beginning rather than just the diff.

I found a number of places where the wording was poor due to grammar, and I'm trying to send that as a pull request since it does not affect
the (intended) meaning.   I think you forgot to commit/push your -15 to
github though.

Figure 5 and 6 are long and have some unfortunate page breaks.
I think that you could squeeze a few filler lines out of figure 6, and perhaps when going to PDF, it will be fine.  We aren't doing page breaks in text RFCs, so it likely isn't as important.

Figure 5 is rather long though, and I suggest that you might want to split it up into two figures, repeating the author/firmware-server/consumer/bootloader headings.
I suggest splitting it at "Request Firmware", repeating "Request Firmware"/"Send Firmware" at the bottom of one diagram and the top of the other.  That split also means the second time-sequence does not need "Author" heading at all.

I can tell that you did a lot of work based upon the reviews, it all seems great. Thank you.

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