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Re: [Suit] How are firmware and firmware versions expressed in manifest?

Dick Brooks <dick@reliableenergyanalytics.com> Fri, 05 June 2020 17:41 UTC

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From: Dick Brooks <dick@reliableenergyanalytics.com>
To: 'Michael Richardson' <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
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Subject: Re: [Suit] How are firmware and firmware versions expressed in manifest?
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Thank you, Michael. I need to think through this a bit more.

Thanks to all for your insights.

Thanks,

Dick Brooks

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From: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> 
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Subject: Re: [Suit] How are firmware and firmware versions expressed in
manifest?


Dick Brooks <dick@reliableenergyanalytics.com> wrote:
    > Thanks, Michael Richardson. I'm uncertain that MUD has exactly what
I'm
    > looking for to meet NERC CIP-010-3 R1, Part 1.6 expectations, after a
    > cursory look at the standard. I don't see where the MUD process would
    > support deep introspection and corroborating evidence within a risk
    > assessment control prior to deployment, which is what I need for NERC
    > CIP-010-3.

It does not offer any of those things.

It offers an attribute/value mechanism signed by the manufacturer, possibly
specific to a given firmware revision, in which you can put a pointer to
some kind of SBOM that would provide you the right information.

We can also do this from the SUIT Manifest, but I suspect that the extra
layer of indirection will benefit the ecosystems.

--
Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works  -=
IPv6 IoT consulting =-

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