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Re: [Suit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-suit-architecture-04.txt

Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com> Wed, 27 March 2019 15:16 UTC

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From: Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com>
To: Brendan Moran <Brendan.Moran@arm.com>
CC: Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca>, "suit@ietf.org" <suit@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Suit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-suit-architecture-04.txt
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Looks ok to me.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Brendan Moran <Brendan.Moran@arm.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 2:55 PM
To: Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com>
Cc: Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca>; suit@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Suit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-suit-architecture-04.txt

Could we add something like this to the draft?

> The architecture in this document is informed by the requirements of Class 1 and Class 2 devices (RFC7228), and because of that, the term Firmware is used rather than Software. There are no restrictions present that prevent distribution of larger code packages (“software”) or other machine consumable resources via this architecture.

Best Regards,
Brendan


> On 27 Mar 2019, at 14:42, Dave Thaler <dthaler=40microsoft.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
> As I recall, this came up at the time the WG was first chartered... at 
> that time, the WG agreed that Firmware was more accurate, but didn't 
> want to change the WG name.
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suit <suit-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Michael Richardson
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 2:05 PM
> To: suit@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Suit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-suit-architecture-04.txt
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> internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>>        Title : A Firmware Update Architecture for Internet of Things
>
> I wonder if the title should be changed to be more "SUIT"...
> So Firmware -> Software ?
>
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