Re: [Suit] Tutorial and Hackathon

Emmanuel Baccelli <Emmanuel.Baccelli@inria.fr> Wed, 14 August 2019 08:46 UTC

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FYI here's a link to the previous SUIT hackathon/interim which we organized
last year, that Hannes mentions.
https://github.com/suit-wg/Hackathon-Interim-Berlin
So the idea would be to go prepend to this format some sort of tutorial, to
be discussed, then.
Right?

On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 10:28 AM Hannes Tschofenig <
Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com> wrote:

> Hi Sorin,
>
>
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> Thanks for your feedback. I believe your tools would be helpful in the
> context of the TEEP work but less so for the SUIT work (but maybe I am
> wrong). It is certainly something to think about as we are preparing the
> virtual machine image.
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> Regarding the date: the thinking was that we should try it as early as
> possible but still leaving us enough time. The challenge with attaching the
> event to the IETF meeting is simply that there are so many other activities
> attached to it. While the hackathon at the IETF meeting is great (and I
> always enjoy attending it) it turns out getting so busy that it is
> difficult to get the actual coding done because there are so many
> distractions. With a complex topic as embedded development and TEEs I
> believe having a much, much smaller group would actually be beneficial for
> folks. The SUIT hackathon in Berlin was we did last year was such an
> example. It was very focused and we accomplished a lot.
>
>
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> Ciao
>
> Hannes
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> *From:* Faibish.Sorin@dell.com <Faibish.Sorin@dell.com>
> *Sent:* Dienstag, 13. August 2019 15:08
> *To:* Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com>om>; teep@ietf.org;
> suit@ietf.org
> *Cc:* t.schmidt@haw-hamburg.de
> *Subject:* RE: Tutorial and Hackathon
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> Hannes,
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> As you know I already made the first step at Hackathon in Montreal when I
> brought a VM that I used to run the DDoS based on IoT devices. So, if there
> will be a VM with development tools I can add to it my python tools so all
> can check their devices. I can provide to Thomas all my tools to be also
> included in the VM. I have a problem though; it will require an additional
> travel to Berlin outside of the IETF formal meetings and it might create a
> problem for some people under the current travel restrictions. As it has to
> be F2F maybe we can do it a day before IETF 107 in Vancouver? Thoughts?
> Thank you
>
>
>
> ./Sorin
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> *From:* TEEP <teep-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *Hannes Tschofenig
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 13, 2019 4:24 AM
> *To:* teep@ietf.org; suit@ietf.org
> *Cc:* Thomas C. Schmidt
> *Subject:* [Teep] Tutorial and Hackathon
>
>
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> [EXTERNAL EMAIL]
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> Hi all,
>
>
>
> at the Montreal meeting we briefly talked about the idea of organizing a
> tutorial followed by a hackathon for SUIT and TEEP.
>
> A few discussions later we came up with the following story.
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> Thomas Schmidt (HAW Hamburg) offered to host the event in Berlin. As a
> date around Jan/Feb 2020 looks more realistic to prepare all the
> necessary material. The idea was to create a virtual machine with the
> development environment pre-installed and to make it available to the
> interested participants well in advance so that we don’t have to waste time
> with tool/IDE problems. This virtual machine image would primarily be used
> for embedded development. For the TEEP story a separate setup will be
> needed to support TrustZone/SGX-based devices (since the development
> environments are different). The virtual machine setup for embedded
> development would be tailored to a specific embedded hardware and we
> haven’t decided yet what hardware to use. The SUIT hackathon demo boards
> used in earlier IETF Hackathons may be an reasonable choice. Thoughts are
> nevertheless welcome. At the tutorial we would get participants up to speed
> on the most recent protocol/manifest format and the already written tools
> (e.g., the Python tool to create a manifest) so that time at the hackathon
> is spent as productive as possible.
>
>
>
> We thought it makes sense to cover both SUIT and TEEP in a single event
> because both groups plan to the manifest format and some of the use cases
> overlap.
>
>
>
> Russ suggested to conclude the event with a virtual interim meeting (maybe
> an hour long) to discuss the lessons learned.
>
>
>
> As you can see, the event is focused on hands-on work and hence we will
> not offer remote participation possibilities. If you are not interested in
> writing code this event is likely not very useful for you.
>
>
>
> We need your feedback:
>
>
>
>    - Would you like to participate in such an event?
>    - In case you know already, what topic would you like to explore at
>    the event?
>    - Is the Jan/Feb 2020 timeframe good for you?
>    - Is your interest in TEEP, SUIT, or both?
>    - Do you have additional suggestions for getting most out of this
>    event?
>
>
>
> Ciao
>
> Hannes
>
>
>
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