Re: [Syslog] I-D Action:draft-cloud-log-01.txt (fwd)

Raffael Marty <raffy@raffy.ch> Sun, 20 March 2011 05:18 UTC

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Chris et al.

I have written a technical review of why a cloud logging standard doesn't make any sense here:

- http://raffy.ch/blog/2011/02/14/why-a-cloud-logging-standard-doesnt-make-any-sense/

Aside from the many many shortcomings that are addressed in my blog post, standardizing cloud logging is like saying we are going to write a standard for mobile phone logging, one for green data center initiatives, one for virtualization, etc. We need one standard. The cloud is not special. It's a virtualized, distributed, asynchronous environment. We need to add these (and other) use-cases to an existing or a new logging standard, but not create a variety of different use-cases. Let's define what the cloud use-case demands and add it as a requirement to some other standard.

Please consider this when looking at the cloud-draft.

Thank you!

  Raffael

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Raffael Marty                          Founder and COO @ Loggly
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On Mar 16, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Chris Lonvick wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> 
> Just passing this along.
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris
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> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:45:09 -0700
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> Subject: I-D Action:draft-cloud-log-01.txt
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> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> 
> 	Title           : Syslog Extension for Cloud Using Syslog Structured Data
> 	Author(s)       : G. Golovinsky, et al.
> 	Filename        : draft-cloud-log-01.txt
> 	Pages           : 11
> 	Date            : 2011-03-14
> 
> This document provides an open and extensible log format to be used
> by any cloud entity or cloud application to log and trace activities
> that occur in the cloud.  It is equally applicable for cloud
> infrastructure (IaaS), platform (PaaS), and application (SaaS)
> services.  CloudLog is defferent in content, but not in nature from
> the traditional logging as it takes in account transient nature of
> identities and resources in the cloud.
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