RE: [Syslog] RE: byte-counting vs special character

Hi,

I agree; we don't want a vote here.  We want strong technical reasons for 
making a decision.

Thanks,
Chris

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006, David Harrington wrote:

> Hi Rainer,
>
> The IETF doesn't vote.
> The chairs will determine consensus on or after the Aug 18 deadline
> for this decision.
>
> David Harrington
> dharrington@huawei.com
> dbharrington@comcast.net
> ietfdbh@comcast.net
> co-chair, Syslog WG
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rainer Gerhards [mailto:rgerhards@hq.adiscon.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:08 PM
>> To: Carson Gaspar
>> Cc: syslog@ietf.org
>> Subject: RE: [Syslog] RE: byte-counting vs special character
>>
>> Carson,
>>
>> Legacy code does not contain LF in messages. It is advised that
>> new-style syslog also does not contain control characters
>> (though it now
>> is allowed).
>>
>> Thus the argument is valid. Again, I do not object octet-couting (I
>> actually introduced the idea ;)) but find it the second
> best-solution.
>> Maybe we should do a simple poll - some have already voiced their
>> choices...
>>
>> Rainer
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Carson Gaspar [mailto:carson@taltos.org]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 1:33 PM
>>> To: syslog@ietf.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Syslog] RE: byte-counting vs special character
>>>
>>> Escaping precludes no-configuration backwards compatibility,
>>> as no legacy
>>> syslog-over-tcp code does escaping. So if you want to
>>> interoperate with
>>> existing code, you must have a "don't escape or expect
>>> escapes" switch in
>>> your code. If you're going to do that, just have a "LF mode
>>> vs byte-count
>>> mode" switch. This whole backwards compat argument is bogus,
>>> iff we decide
>>> to escape embedded LF instead of forbidding it. And I have
>> yet to see
>>> anyone argue for LF on any grounds except backwards compatibility.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Carson
>>>
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