RE: [Syslog] RE: byte-counting vs special character

"David Harrington" <ietfdbh@comcast.net> Thu, 17 August 2006 01:05 UTC

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From: David Harrington <ietfdbh@comcast.net>
To: 'Rainer Gerhards' <rgerhards@hq.adiscon.com>, 'Carson Gaspar' <carson@taltos.org>
Subject: RE: [Syslog] RE: byte-counting vs special character
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:03:41 -0400
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Hi Rainer,

The IETF doesn't vote.
The chairs will determine consensus on or after the Aug 18 deadline
for this decision.

David Harrington
dharrington@huawei.com 
dbharrington@comcast.net
ietfdbh@comcast.net
co-chair, Syslog WG 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rainer Gerhards [mailto:rgerhards@hq.adiscon.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:08 PM
> To: Carson Gaspar
> Cc: syslog@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [Syslog] RE: byte-counting vs special character
> 
> Carson,
> 
> Legacy code does not contain LF in messages. It is advised that
> new-style syslog also does not contain control characters 
> (though it now
> is allowed).
> 
> Thus the argument is valid. Again, I do not object octet-couting (I
> actually introduced the idea ;)) but find it the second
best-solution.
> Maybe we should do a simple poll - some have already voiced their
> choices...
> 
> Rainer 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Carson Gaspar [mailto:carson@taltos.org] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 1:33 PM
> > To: syslog@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [Syslog] RE: byte-counting vs special character
> > 
> > Escaping precludes no-configuration backwards compatibility, 
> > as no legacy 
> > syslog-over-tcp code does escaping. So if you want to 
> > interoperate with 
> > existing code, you must have a "don't escape or expect 
> > escapes" switch in 
> > your code. If you're going to do that, just have a "LF mode 
> > vs byte-count 
> > mode" switch. This whole backwards compat argument is bogus, 
> > iff we decide 
> > to escape embedded LF instead of forbidding it. And I have 
> yet to see 
> > anyone argue for LF on any grounds except backwards compatibility.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Carson
> > 
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