Re: [tae] [tsv-area] Transport negotiation
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Subject: Re: [tae] [tsv-area] Transport negotiation
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james woodyatt wrote: ... > But is it a good idea to do it this way? It doesn't seem likely when I > think about it. Why not just define a single layer that unifies all the > various E2E tools in one conceptual model? (I'm now remembering an > esoteric transport protocol called XTP that purported to attempt this. > <sardonic>I wonder whatever happened to it.</sardonic>) TP++ as well, FWIW. There's a difference between trying to unify the functions of the layers (as with XTP and TP++) and declaring that this means only a single layer is sufficient. RNA argues (and Day's book also suggests) that the layering itself provides utility in limiting scope, and in abstracting services for layers above (and from layers below). Joe _______________________________________________ tae mailing list tae@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tae
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- Re: [tae] [tsv-area] Transport negotiation Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [tae] [tsv-area] Transport negotiation james woodyatt
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- Re: [tae] [tsv-area] Transport negotiation Joe Touch
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- Re: [tae] [tsv-area] Transport negotiation Joe Touch
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- Re: [tae] [tsv-area] Transport negotiation Joe Touch
- Re: [tae] [tsv-area] Transport negotiation Stuart Cheshire
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