Re: [tae] The internet architecture
John Day <jeanjour@comcast.net> Fri, 05 December 2008 17:02 UTC
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:57:58 -0500
To: dcrocker@bbiw.net, John Day <jeanjour@comcast.net>
From: John Day <jeanjour@comcast.net>
Cc: Thomas Narten <narten@us.ibm.com>, tae@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org,
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Subject: Re: [tae] The internet architecture
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In other words the failure of a university education. At 8:46 -0800 2008/12/05, Dave CROCKER wrote: >John Day wrote: >>Speak for yourself David. These problems have been well understood >>and discussed since 1972. But you are correct, that there were >>still a large unwashed that didn't and I am still not sure why that >>was. This seems to be elementary system architecture. > > >John, > >After your or I or whoever indulges in our flash of brilliant >insight, it is the unwashed who do all the work. > >So I was careful to refer to "the community" rather than claim that >no one at all understand the issue. > >I measure the community in terms of that pesky "rough consensus" >construct and particularly in terms of running code. Even in terms >of the much more relaxed measure, namely mindshare, the community >reflects no clear consensus on the matter of name-vs-address split, >beyond now believing that we should do more of it. > >We are only beginning to see broader use of the distinction between >transient, within-session naming, for merging data coming in from >alternate paths, versus global, persistent naming, for initial >rendez vous. > >d/ > >-- > > Dave Crocker > Brandenburg InternetWorking > bbiw.net _______________________________________________ tae mailing list tae@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tae
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture Bryan Ford
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture Keith Moore
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture Keith Moore
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture Keith Moore
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture John Leslie
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture Joe Touch
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture Keith Moore
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture Thomas Narten
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture Thomas Narten
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture Dave CROCKER
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture Melinda Shore
- [tae] sockets vs. fds Dave CROCKER
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture John Day
- Re: [tae] sockets vs. fds Melinda Shore
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture John Day
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture John Day
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture Keith Moore
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture Keith Moore
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture Keith Moore
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture Keith Moore
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture Dave CROCKER
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture John Day
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture John Day
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture Thomas Narten
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture Keith Moore
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture Thomas Narten
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture Keith Moore
- Re: [tae] sockets vs. fds Tony Finch
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture David W. Hankins
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: [tae] sockets vs. fds Florian Weimer
- [tae] The Great Naming Debate (was Re: The intern… Bryan Ford
- Re: [tae] The Great Naming Debate (was Re: The in… Keith Moore
- Re: [tae] The Great Naming Debate (was Re: The in… Joe Baptista
- Re: [tae] The Great Naming Debate (was Re: The in… Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: [tae] The Great Naming Debate (was Re: The in… Melinda Shore
- Re: [tae] The Great Naming Debate (was Re: The in… Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: [tae] The Great Naming Debate (was Re: The in… Keith Moore
- Re: [tae] The internet architecture John Leslie