Re: [tae] [tsv-area] Transport negotiation
Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU> Mon, 08 December 2008 06:08 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tae] [tsv-area] Transport negotiation
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Lloyd Wood wrote: > > On 3 Dec 2008, at 21:07, Stuart Cheshire wrote: >> >> I think the whole notion of "transport negotiation" is flawed. > > agreed. And moving negotiation to 'asking DNS what to do' is just > shifting the problem around. > > At the least, it should be possible to explicitly say 'this is how I > will send' and presume the other end is similarly explicitly configured. > No negotiation, period. Isn't that exactly what happens when I send a TCP over IPv4 SYN segment? I'm saying "I want to use IPv4, using TCP, with the indicated options, on the given port". The trouble ensues when the initiator is ambiguous about what it wants - for whatever reason (e.g., to enable alternates at differently-capable receivers). Joe -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkk8udMACgkQE5f5cImnZrvMqwCbBWlJeIma1LC416QddaQaZrSJ rYQAn0lS6baIW4boT1XHpN4u5oR+ip9y =zSrd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ tae mailing list tae@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tae
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