Re: [tao-discuss] New version of the "Tao of the IETF" published

[Joel Halpern <[e-mail]>]

Just to close the loop, yes, I think that suffices.

Thank you,

Joel

On 9/12/2022 5:43 AM, Niels ten Oever wrote:
> Hi Joel,
>
> On 09-09-2022 18:45, Joel Halpern wrote:
>> I do not want to be too picky.  I understand that it is impossible to 
>> get the wording of the Tao perfect.  And I understand that it does 
>> not need to be precise or complete in describing our process.  (If it 
>> were, it would likely be unreadable.)
>>
>> However, in the section describing the IESG processing of RFCs, I see 
>> that the text claims that the IESG reviews EACH (emphasis added) 
>> drafts that are becoming RFCs.  And the text as written implies that 
>> in all cases those reviews result in ballots with the described 
>> positions. However, that is not the case,  IRTF drafts and 
>> Independent Stream drafts do not get that treatment.   When we next 
>> edit this, could we change that slightly?
>>
>> Maybe make it "each IETF produced RFC"?  Or at the section that says 
>> "As part of the document reviews" make that "For IETF produced RFCs, 
>> as part of the document reviews"?  (I would have used "stream" rather 
>> than "produced" but I think that might be confusing for newcomers as 
>> they often are not familiar with RFC streams.)
>>
>
> This is the proposed change, correct?
>
> https://github.com/ietf/tao/pull/52
>
> Best,
>
> Niels
>
>
>> Yours,
>>
>> Joel
>>
>> On 9/9/2022 10:27 AM, IETF Chair wrote:
>>> [Forwarding this on behalf of the Tao editors - Lars]
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I am very happy to announce the new version of the Tao of the IETF [0].
>>>
>>> This version significantly benefited from suggestions and 
>>> contributions by the community, most notably from Rich Salz, for 
>>> which I as editor am very thankful.
>>>
>>> This publication would also not have been possible without the 
>>> support of Greg Wood and the review of the IESG.
>>>
>>> The IESG requested for future iterations to have smaller changes, so 
>>> I intend to increase the publication pace. However, this also 
>>> depends on the discussion about the future of the Tao.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Niels
>>> Editor of the Tao
>>>
>>> PS New suggestions are of course always welcome on tao-discuss and 
>>> on Github as PR (https://github.com/ietf/tao/blob/main/Tao.md)
>>>
>>> [0] https://ietf.org/tao
>>>
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