Re: [tao-discuss] First draft of new version

Niels ten Oever <niels@article19.org> Mon, 04 June 2018 12:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: [tao-discuss] First draft of new version
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Thanks Brian,

inline:

On 06/02/2018 05:31 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> Just the points where I want to comment on your replies:
> 
> On 01/06/2018 23:38, Niels ten Oever wrote:
>> Hi Brian,
>>
>> On 06/01/2018 04:13 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>>> Niels,
> ...
>>>> The current Areas and abbreviations are shown below (more information
>>>> can be found here: https://www.ietf.org/topics/areas/).
>>>
>>> I wonder about including the current list of Areas. They do change, and
>>> apparently more often than the Tao changes. Maybe it would be better
>>> just to include the pointer?
>>
>> I have been thinking about this a bit. With every link, we lose (at
>> least) 80% of the audience. I think the Areas should be basic knowledge
>> that people know.
>>
>> We also want to update the Tao more regularly, so hopefully we will
>> actually update the Tao more often than areas change. I was generally
>> thinking of doing at least an update once per year.
> 
> That would be fine, but it needs to be on some annual check-list
> held by IASA, I think. (There's the same problem for one of the
> things I've been editing, https://www.ietf.org/standards/process/informal/ .)
> 
> ...
> 

Any idea who/where I should email to get it on their list?

>>>> The Sunday is an excellent day to join the meeting...
>>>
>>> How about :
>>>
>>>   If you are not attending the hackathon, Sunday is an excellent day to
>>> join the meeting...
>>>
>>
>> This becomes a bit nitpicky, but I think people _can_ attend both, just
>> not in its entirety. What do you think about this:
>>
>> The Sunday is an excellent day to join the meeting (unless you already
>> join us during the hackathon on Saturday) because Saturday is the
>> newcomer's tutorial, as well the Quick Connections session where
>> newcomers get to meet with experienced IETF participants and the
>> Newcomer's Meet and Greet where newcomers can meet Area Directors and
>> Working Group Chairs.
> 
> Sure, but you mean "Sunday is the newcomer's tutorial".
> 
> ...
> 

Thanks!

>>>> , continental breakfast on Monday through Friday
>>>> mornings (depending on the meeting venue),
>>>
>>> Why delete that? It's still true.
>>>
>>
>> In my experience this is only for people who stay in the venue hotel,
>> and not for everyone. Am I wrong?
> 
> No, if there's breakfast in the breakout areas, it's for everybody.
> That seems to apply in North America, if the meeting rooms are in the
> main hotel. But not in most other countries, and not in convention
> centre venues. So with the three continents model for meeting locations,
> it's definitely no longer the norm. So
> 
>  , in some venues, continental breakfast on Monday through Friday mornings,
> 
> might be less misleading.
> 

added!

Thanks again!

Niels

> Thanks
>    Brian
>