Re: [tao-discuss] Review Request for Possible Revision of the Tao of the IETF

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 13 April 2022 05:19 UTC

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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [tao-discuss] Review Request for Possible Revision of the Tao of the IETF
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Hi,

Not having write access to the repo, it seems I can't issue a PR.
I have a branch and a PR ready to go, with a modest number of minor
fixes, if someone can authorize becarpenter.
  
Here are some points from the old Tao that I can't find in the
proposed update:

> Marshall Rose once remarked that the IETF was a place to go for "many	 		
> fine lunches and dinners".

This statement from the old Tao has disappeared. I think that's a shame,
but to restore it, some explanation would have to be added.

> WG chairs are advised to participate in the WG chairs lunch mid-week...

That doesn't seem to be mentioned any more. Was that intentional?

> However, some WG chairs never manage to get their WG to finish,...

This topic seems to have vanished. Do we want to pretend it never
happens?

> Some Working Groups have complex documents or a complex set of documents	 		
> (or even both)...

Ditto. But it leads to those terrible AUTH48 delays. Do we want to pretend
that never happens either?

> If a participant makes significant contributions, the document editor or
> chair can invite the participant to become a co-author or co-editor, ...

This point seems to have got lost too.

Regards
    Brian