[Taps] Fwd: Proposal for Consolidating Parts of the ART & TSV Areas

Reese Enghardt <ietf@tenghardt.net> Tue, 19 September 2023 16:40 UTC

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Subject: [Taps] Fwd: Proposal for Consolidating Parts of the ART & TSV Areas
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Hi,

just FYI in case you haven't seen the email below and/or the ongoing 
discussion on this.

Please provide input by Sep 20 if you haven't but want to.

Thanks,
Reese


---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: *Martin Duke* <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 5:50 PM
Subject: Proposal for Consolidating Parts of the ART & TSV Areas
To: <tsv-chairs@ietf.org>, <art-chairs@ietf.org>, <ietf@ietf.org>, 
IETF-Announce <ietf-announce@ietf.org>, <wg-chairs@ietf.org>


The IESG proposes to reorganize the areas by merging the web-related 
working groups in ART with most of the transport area to create a new 
area called either “Web and Application Transport” (WAT) or “Transport 
and Web Applications” (TWA), effective at IETF 119. The IESG invites 
community comment on this change.


The Transport area (TSV) is the smallest area in terms of working 
groups. More importantly, it has been extremely difficult to find 
candidates for the two Transport AD positions for many years. Although 
the Transport Area could be managed by one AD, the IESG strongly feels 
that having a partner is very important for vacation coverage, managing 
working groups, handling conflicts of interest, and so on.


Meanwhile, the Applications and Real Time (ART) area has been growing. 
The IESG has already requested a third AD position for ART to be seated 
by the NomCom in 2024. One of these three ART ADs would move to the new 
area, together with one AD from TSV. Concurrently eliminating a position 
prevents growth in the overall size of the IESG.


Similar to the OPS area, this new area would have two centers of gravity 
(transport layer and web applications), so that one AD would have 
transport expertise and the other would have HTTP expertise. 
Thematically, this new area would have cohesion around traditional 
Transport subjects and ART protocols that are often used as transports 
(especially HTTP). These groups tend to have significant attendance 
overlaps.


Affected Working Groups


The following working groups would move outside both ART and the new area:

  *

    ALTO to OPS

  *

    DTN to INT

  *

    IPPM to OPS

  *

    SCIM to SEC

  *

    TIGRESS to SEC


The new area would consist of the following working groups:

  *

    AVTCORE

  *

    CDNI

  *

    CCWG

  *

    CORE

  *

    HTTPAPI

  *

    HTTPBIS

  *

    MASQUE

  *

    MOQ

  *

    NFSV4

  *

    QUIC

  *

    RTCWEB

  *

    TAPS

  *

    TCPM

  *

    TSVAREA (to be renamed in accordance with the new area and an
    updated description/purpose)

  *

    TSVWG (this may require a minor recharter, but would retain the same
    competencies)

  *

    WEBTRANS


All other ART working groups would remain in place.


The Transport Area Review Team (TSVART) would not change its purpose, 
scope, or operations. The Transport-focused AD would have primary 
responsibility for managing this team. The HTTP Directorate would also 
remain as-is and would be overseen by the HTTP-oriented AD of the new 
area. Details about ARTART are TBD.


Transition Plan

The IESG would request that NomCom not fill the open TSV AD position 
currently occupied by Martin Duke. Francesca Palombini and Zahed Sarker 
would be the initial ADs for the new area.


The IESG would also request that one of the two ART openings be filled 
for only a one-year term, so as to stagger future ART AD terms.


The new area’s AD terms would initially also end at the same time. In 
the 2024-2025 NomCom cycle, the IESG would request that the NomCom fill 
two slots, one with transport expertise and one with HTTP expertise, 
either of which could be a one-year term (but not both).


Next Steps

Please submit any comments on this plan, including the name/acronym to 
iesg@ietf.org <mailto:iesg@ietf.org>no later than 20 Sep 2023 (anywhere 
on Earth).


Concurrently, the IESG will work on updated job descriptions to be 
transmitted to the NomCom.  It anticipates this update will be 
relatively minor.


On Behalf of the IESG,
Martin Duke
Transport AD
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