[Taps] Fwd: Proposal for Consolidating Parts of the ART & TSV Areas
Reese Enghardt <ietf@tenghardt.net> Tue, 19 September 2023 16:40 UTC
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Subject: [Taps] Fwd: Proposal for Consolidating Parts of the ART & TSV Areas
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Hi,
just FYI in case you haven't seen the email below and/or the ongoing
discussion on this.
Please provide input by Sep 20 if you haven't but want to.
Thanks,
Reese
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From: *Martin Duke* <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 5:50 PM
Subject: Proposal for Consolidating Parts of the ART & TSV Areas
To: <tsv-chairs@ietf.org>, <art-chairs@ietf.org>, <ietf@ietf.org>,
IETF-Announce <ietf-announce@ietf.org>, <wg-chairs@ietf.org>
The IESG proposes to reorganize the areas by merging the web-related
working groups in ART with most of the transport area to create a new
area called either “Web and Application Transport” (WAT) or “Transport
and Web Applications” (TWA), effective at IETF 119. The IESG invites
community comment on this change.
The Transport area (TSV) is the smallest area in terms of working
groups. More importantly, it has been extremely difficult to find
candidates for the two Transport AD positions for many years. Although
the Transport Area could be managed by one AD, the IESG strongly feels
that having a partner is very important for vacation coverage, managing
working groups, handling conflicts of interest, and so on.
Meanwhile, the Applications and Real Time (ART) area has been growing.
The IESG has already requested a third AD position for ART to be seated
by the NomCom in 2024. One of these three ART ADs would move to the new
area, together with one AD from TSV. Concurrently eliminating a position
prevents growth in the overall size of the IESG.
Similar to the OPS area, this new area would have two centers of gravity
(transport layer and web applications), so that one AD would have
transport expertise and the other would have HTTP expertise.
Thematically, this new area would have cohesion around traditional
Transport subjects and ART protocols that are often used as transports
(especially HTTP). These groups tend to have significant attendance
overlaps.
Affected Working Groups
The following working groups would move outside both ART and the new area:
*
ALTO to OPS
*
DTN to INT
*
IPPM to OPS
*
SCIM to SEC
*
TIGRESS to SEC
The new area would consist of the following working groups:
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AVTCORE
*
CDNI
*
CCWG
*
CORE
*
HTTPAPI
*
HTTPBIS
*
MASQUE
*
MOQ
*
NFSV4
*
QUIC
*
RTCWEB
*
TAPS
*
TCPM
*
TSVAREA (to be renamed in accordance with the new area and an
updated description/purpose)
*
TSVWG (this may require a minor recharter, but would retain the same
competencies)
*
WEBTRANS
All other ART working groups would remain in place.
The Transport Area Review Team (TSVART) would not change its purpose,
scope, or operations. The Transport-focused AD would have primary
responsibility for managing this team. The HTTP Directorate would also
remain as-is and would be overseen by the HTTP-oriented AD of the new
area. Details about ARTART are TBD.
Transition Plan
The IESG would request that NomCom not fill the open TSV AD position
currently occupied by Martin Duke. Francesca Palombini and Zahed Sarker
would be the initial ADs for the new area.
The IESG would also request that one of the two ART openings be filled
for only a one-year term, so as to stagger future ART AD terms.
The new area’s AD terms would initially also end at the same time. In
the 2024-2025 NomCom cycle, the IESG would request that the NomCom fill
two slots, one with transport expertise and one with HTTP expertise,
either of which could be a one-year term (but not both).
Next Steps
Please submit any comments on this plan, including the name/acronym to
iesg@ietf.org <mailto:iesg@ietf.org>no later than 20 Sep 2023 (anywhere
on Earth).
Concurrently, the IESG will work on updated job descriptions to be
transmitted to the NomCom. It anticipates this update will be
relatively minor.
On Behalf of the IESG,
Martin Duke
Transport AD
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