Re: [tcmtf] Other potential specific uses of TCM-TF

"Diego R. Lopez" <diego@tid.es> Wed, 19 June 2013 14:41 UTC

Return-Path: <diego@tid.es>
X-Original-To: tcmtf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: tcmtf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB3421F9B87 for <tcmtf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:41:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -6.599
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BtCsaDPx71SZ for <tcmtf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:41:32 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from correo-bck.tid.es (correo-bck.tid.es [195.235.93.200]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF11121F8F29 for <tcmtf@ietf.org>; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:41:30 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from sbrightmailg02.hi.inet (Sbrightmailg02.hi.inet [10.95.78.105]) by tid.hi.inet (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0MON006I8A541H@tid.hi.inet> for tcmtf@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:41:28 +0200 (MEST)
Received: from vanvan (vanvan.hi.inet [10.95.78.49]) by sbrightmailg02.hi.inet (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 4C.42.05654.813C1C15; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:41:28 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from correo.tid.es (mailhost.hi.inet [10.95.64.100]) by tid.hi.inet (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPS id <0MON006I0A541H@tid.hi.inet> for tcmtf@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:41:28 +0200 (MEST)
Received: from EX10-MB2-MAD.hi.inet ([169.254.2.38]) by EX10-HTCAS6-MAD.hi.inet ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:41:28 +0200
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 14:40:31 +0000
From: "Diego R. Lopez" <diego@tid.es>
In-reply-to: <002801ce6cf9$500feac0$f02fc040$@unizar.es>
X-Originating-IP: [10.95.64.115]
To: "<jsaldana@unizar.es>" <jsaldana@unizar.es>
Message-id: <E6D8B95470ED0845B3376F61DCAB1A049CCE874D@EX10-MB2-MAD.hi.inet>
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_NVcJOSiRtk5ykHv1NC0RqQ)"
Content-language: en-US
Accept-Language: en-US, es-ES
Thread-topic: [tcmtf] Other potential specific uses of TCM-TF
Thread-index: Ac5s978oBaw7NG94S9C/A9wEOusDMf//5SMA
X-AuditID: 0a5f4e69-b7f4b6d000001616-dd-51c1c318dc4b
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprMIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsXCFe9nqCtx+GCgwY+/Rha7Pm9gdGD0WLLk J1MAYxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJXxruLexgLPkZX9Cy8y9rA+C6gi5GTQ0LARGJyz2NWCFtM4sK9 9WxdjFwcQgLbGSVaVz9mhnB+Mkr8vH+WHcKZxigx78dppi5GDg4WAVWJVz3aIN1sQOaj5t/s ILawgI3EoWtHWEBsTgELiSk9/WwQGxQk/px7DBYXEdCXuPH4N9hMZoHvjBJ/Ln1gBknwCnhL PDjwnxXCFpT4MfkeWAOzQK7E2q0/WCFscYnm1ptgcUYBWYl38+ezQgy1lWhd9x5qgZHEnKf7 oF4TkFiy5zwzhC0q8fLxP7C4kIC5xNS9exgnMIrNQrJuFpJ1s5Csg7ANJN6fm88MYWtLLFv4 GsrWl9j45SwjhG0m0ftzLyOymgWMHKsYxYqTijLTM0pyEzNz0g2M9DIy9TLzUks2MUIiMnMH 4/KdKocYBTgYlXh4G1YeCBRiTSwrrsw9xCjBwawkwtu162CgEG9KYmVValF+fFFpTmrxIUYm Dk6pBsaZy45se5SSIJe6zfDnlIPiVm56iy0Onznicc74p/KRwy6256yWH/13YqlGpL67O5Pf 9pOTvUtesf7f+/Xq5gCW+Hq+Hm3h0k2rr9bxFXDmGG04Pt18Icv8AsNitZZ5ZjsWrDjnpVh7 IHD1Z/H3PK3lqzY9ipKz+xgwgcWN+cnM8AM7LolO9XikxFKckWioxVxUnAgAwJ+r7aYCAAA=
References: <002801ce6cf9$500feac0$f02fc040$@unizar.es>
Cc: "<tcmtf@ietf.org>" <tcmtf@ietf.org>, "<Matteo.Berioli@dlr.de>" <Matteo.Berioli@dlr.de>, "<Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de>" <Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de>, Spencer Dawkins <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>, Martin Stiemerling <Martin.Stiemerling@neclab.eu>
Subject: Re: [tcmtf] Other potential specific uses of TCM-TF
X-BeenThere: tcmtf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Tunneling Compressed Multiplexed Traffic Flows \(TCMTF\) discussion list" <tcmtf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/tcmtf>, <mailto:tcmtf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tcmtf>
List-Post: <mailto:tcmtf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:tcmtf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tcmtf>, <mailto:tcmtf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 14:41:36 -0000

Hi,

I think it could be better to mention the study of specific requirements on TCMTF by particular use cases, and consider the inclusion of such documents in a future rechartering, rather than committing to have one document (or even several of them) in an issue that we'll have to clarify once the basic framework is in place.

Be goode,

On 19 Jun 2013, at 16:28 , Jose Saldana wrote:

Hi all,

As you may know, if we get the BOF approved, we will have to discuss the WG charter there. Currently these drafts are included in the WG charter (http://diec.unizar.es/~jsaldana/personal/ietf/tcmtf_charter_draft.pdf):

1- Draft “TCM-TF reference model”: the different options which can be used at each layer.
2- Draft “TCM-TF negotiation protocol”: setup/release a TCMTF session including a negotiation mechanism to decide the options to use at each layer.
3- Draft “TCM-TF recommendations”: recommendations in order to decide which packet flows can or can not be multiplexed and how.

For the charter discussion, it would be useful to have in mind (and perhaps to mention) other potential specific uses of TCM-TF *that might contribute unique requirements*.

- First of all, I think on the idea proposed by Tomaso and Matteo (DLR), as said in n.10 of the current draft charter: “specific uses of TCMTF, such as in wireless and satellite scenarios, could be considered, and it will be studied whether modifications or extensions are required on the protocol”. It presents different and specific requirements.

- Do you think that instant messaging presents unique requirements with respect to the normal use of TCM-TF? I don’t think so, but perhaps someone won’t agree on this. In fact, instant messaging is already included in the “TCM-TF recommendations” draft.


Any other ideas?

Jose

_______________________________________________
tcmtf mailing list
tcmtf@ietf.org<mailto:tcmtf@ietf.org>
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tcmtf


--
"Esta vez no fallaremos, Doctor Infierno"

Dr Diego R. Lopez
Telefonica I+D
http://people.tid.es/diego.lopez/

e-mail: diego@tid.es
Tel:    +34 913 129 041
Mobile: +34 682 051 091
-----------------------------------------


________________________________

Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra política de envío y recepción de correo electrónico en el enlace situado más abajo.
This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at:
http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx