Re: [tcmtf] Support to create the working group for TCM-TF
"Jose Saldana" <jsaldana@unizar.es> Sat, 03 August 2013 08:44 UTC
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To: 'Wesley Eddy' <wes@mti-systems.com>, 'Joe Touch' <touch@isi.edu>
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Subject: Re: [tcmtf] Support to create the working group for TCM-TF
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I agree with Wes. The question of the area was discussed one year ago (see slides 24-26 of this presentation at IETF83: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/slides/slides-83-tsvwg-0.pdf). There have been no objections about this point during the last 16 months. The drafts are in tsvwg. The BOF was organized by the Transport Area, and nobody objected. So IMHO, this is clear. Thanks, Jose -----Mensaje original----- De: tcmtf-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:tcmtf-bounces@ietf.org] En nombre de Wesley Eddy Enviado el: sábado, 03 de agosto de 2013 4:05 Para: Joe Touch CC: tcmtf@ietf.org; info@fap-ntic.org; martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu Asunto: Re: [tcmtf] Support to create the working group for TCM-TF On 8/2/2013 1:58 PM, Joe Touch wrote: > Hi, all, > > FWIW, I don't understand why this is being requested of the TRANSPORT area. > > Tunnels such as this ought to be the purview of INTAREA. I admit I > remain confused as to why so many tunneling protocols are in ROUTING, > but regardless neither is TRANSPORT. > Hi Joe; here are a few reasons I can think of for justifying transport as the area: - the intent was not to invent new tunnel protocols, but to use existing ones as part of a stack - all of the possible downsides that people brought up during the meeting are impacts to the transport protocol; so there is a tight coupling between transport configuration and what the recommendation for performing TCMTF on a flow should be - many of the design considerations are directly related to things transport has dealt with in the past like delayed ACKs, ACK compression, buffer sizing, etc. - PILC and PEP documentation were done in the transport area - RoHC was done in the transport area - PMTUD was in transport area (since you noted that this is a an additional concern) In my opinion, if this is done, it should be in transport. -- Wes Eddy MTI Systems _______________________________________________ tcmtf mailing list tcmtf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tcmtf
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- [tcmtf] Support to create the working group for T… papie nzengeli
- Re: [tcmtf] Support to create the working group f… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcmtf] Support to create the working group f… Wesley Eddy
- Re: [tcmtf] Support to create the working group f… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tcmtf] Support to create the working group f… Jose Saldana
- Re: [tcmtf] Support to create the working group f… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcmtf] Support to create the working group f… Wesley Eddy
- Re: [tcmtf] Support to create the working group f… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcmtf] Support to create the working group f… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcmtf] Support to create the working group f… Jose Saldana
- Re: [tcmtf] Support to create the working group f… Joe Touch