Re: [tcmtf] Improvements in the TCM-TF charter draft v8

Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com> Thu, 21 November 2013 12:01 UTC

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From: Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 07:00:59 -0500
To: FERNANDO PASCUAL BLANCO <fpb@tid.es>
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Subject: Re: [tcmtf] Improvements in the TCM-TF charter draft v8
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Look at QUIC amongst others.

Marie-José Montpetit
marie@mjmontpetit.com
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> On Nov 21, 2013, at 6:56, FERNANDO PASCUAL BLANCO <fpb@tid.es> wrote:
> 
> Hi Marie,
> 
> I think transport accelerators are more focused in optimizing single data flows (compression and maybe tunneling). The main difference here would be the multiplexing of several data flows of different users. Please, if I am misunderstand you, provide more information about any other transport accelerator.
> 
> Un saludo,
> Fernando
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> Fernando Pascual Blanco
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>> On 20/11/2013, at 21:32, Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com> wrote:
>> 
>> If there is a discussion about charter I would like to see how this is different from any other 'transport accelerators' especially if the use cases now include VoIP, wireless and satellite links not just real time gaming or video streaming.
>> 
>> /mjm
>> 
>> Marie-José Montpetit
>> mariejo@mit.edu
>> 
>>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 11:19, "Eggert, Lars" <lars@netapp.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>>> On 2013-11-20, at 10:24, Jose Saldana <jsaldana@unizar.es> wrote:
>>>> But if you want to use it in more than a single hop, ROHC has to be
>>>> tunneled, and you lose the savings achieved by compression. So the idea is
>>>> that a number of packets (multiplexed) share the tunnel overhead.
>>> 
>>> several of the scenarios you describe for TCM-TF seem to be fully addressed by ROHC, i.e., do not seem to have multiple L3 hops that require creation of a tunnel.
>>> 
>>> It would be good to explicitly limit yourself to describing scenarios that do have that requirement.
>>> 
>>> Lars
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