Re: [tcmtf] TCMTF BOF description
"Jose Saldana" <jsaldana@unizar.es> Thu, 06 June 2013 13:14 UTC
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Perhaps we could modify the second paragraph, including some bullets for the scenarios: When a number of small-packet flows share the same path, bandwidth can be saved by multiplexing packets belonging to different flows, adding a small multiplexing delay as a counterpart. This delay has to be maintained under some threshold in order to grant the delay requirements. Some examples of the scenarios where grouping packets is possible are: - aggregation networks of a network operator - an end-to-end tunnel between appliances located in two different offices of the same company - a satellite connection used for collecting the data of a high number of sensors. Do you like this? Jose De: tcmtf-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:tcmtf-bounces@ietf.org] En nombre de Julián Fernández-Navajas Enviado el: jueves, 06 de junio de 2013 10:08 Para: tcmtf@ietf.org Asunto: Re: [tcmtf] TCMTF BOF description Hi all, I'd like to make a remark. I feel that the charter is only oriented to network operator. Perhaps it is good strengthen the idea that TCMTF is also beneficial for the development of end-to-end aplications. Julián El 05/06/2013 13:17, Jose Saldana escribió: Hi, I have just built this BOF description for <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki. It summarizes the draft charter: Some emerging interactive services (VoIP, videoconferencing, telemedicine, video vigilance, online gaming, etc.) use small packets in order to send frequent updates to the other extreme of the communication. Therefore, its overhead is significant. In addition, some other services also send small packets, although they are not delay-sensitive (e.g., instant messaging, m2m packets sending collected data in sensor networks using wireless or satellite scenarios). When a number of small-packet flows share the same path, bandwidth can be saved by multiplexing packets belonging to different flows, adding a small multiplexing delay as a counterpart. This delay has to be maintained under some threshold in order to grant the delay requirements. Some examples of the scenarios where grouping packets is possible are: aggregation networks of a network operator; a tunnel between two premises of the same company; a satellite connection used for collecting the data of a high number of sensors. RFC4170 <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4170> (TCRTP) defined a method for grouping VoIP packets considering three different layers: header compression by means of ECRTP; multiplexing by means of PPPMux; tunneling by means of L2TPv3. However, in the last years, emerging real-time services which do not use UDP/RTP have become popular: some of them use UDP or even TCP. In addition, new header compression methods have been defined (ROHC). So there is a need of widening the scope of RFC4170 in order to consider not only UDP/RTP but also other protocols. The same structure of three layers will be considered: header compression, multiplexing and tunneling. The BOF aims for the creation of a Working Group in order to specify the protocol stack, signaling mechanisms and maximum added delay recommendations for tunneling, compressing and multiplexing traffic flows (TCMTF). Do you like it? Another thing: in the section Relevant I-Ds of the web page, the recommendations draft could also be included: <http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-suznjevic-tsvwg-mtd-tcmtf/> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-suznjevic-tsvwg-mtd-tcmtf/ Best regards, Jose _______________________________________________ tcmtf mailing list tcmtf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tcmtf
- [tcmtf] TCMTF BOF description Jose Saldana
- Re: [tcmtf] TCMTF BOF description Julián Fernández-Navajas
- Re: [tcmtf] TCMTF BOF description Martin Stiemerling
- Re: [tcmtf] TCMTF BOF description Jose Saldana