Re: [tcmtf] Improved version (v8) of the TCM-TF charter draft
"Jose Saldana" <jsaldana@unizar.es> Mon, 25 November 2013 08:44 UTC
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From: Jose Saldana <jsaldana@unizar.es>
To: 'Tim Chown' <tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: [tcmtf] Improved version (v8) of the TCM-TF charter draft
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Hi, Tim. I think it is a good idea and we should definitely explain the scenarios in more detail. When you talk about a "deliverable which describes scenarios and requirements," do you mean another draft? In the current "TCM-TF reference model" draft, section 1.4 is about "Scenarios of application". Would it be enough if we improve that section according to what we have discussed in the last days? http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-saldana-tsvwg-tcmtf-05#section-1.4 Regarding the potential effects on other protocols, do you think we should include that on the same draft? Thanks a lot, Jose > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Tim Chown [mailto:tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk] > Enviado el: sábado, 23 de noviembre de 2013 10:58 > Para: jsaldana@unizar.es > CC: Eggert, Lars; tcmtf@ietf.org; tsv-area@ietf.org; Martin Stiemerling; > Reinaldo Penno (repenno); Spencer Dawkins > Asunto: Re: [tcmtf] Improved version (v8) of the TCM-TF charter draft > > Hi, > > On 22 Nov 2013, at 09:50, Jose Saldana <jsaldana@unizar.es> wrote: > > > Hi, Lars. > > > > During the BoF in Berlin, I got the impression that the problem was > > not the idea of TCM-TF itself, but some of the considered options > > (e.g. TCP). There were many people who raised their hands when asked > > about "willing to review docs or comment on mailing list". However, it > > seems that there are some people who are not convinced about the utility > of TCM-TF. > > > > So in order to reach consensus, let us keep on discussing and > > thinking. This is very enriching, since it is making us refine the > > scenarios where TCM-TF may have a real potential, and discard the ones in > which it makes no sense. > > I think it may be useful if the charter includes a deliverable which describes > scenarios and requirements. At present, the scenarios and existing > solutions are presented in points 1-4 of the charter, rather than being more > formally documented as part of the WG activities. Such a document could > explain why, from a requirements perspective, ROHC isnt sufficient for the > use cases envisioned. It could also clarify whats in scope, e.g. point 2 > mentions satellite while point 10 mentions satellite as possible future > work. Theres been some good scenario discussion on the list recently > which could all be captured. > > Whats also missing is analysis of the impact on other protocols of deploying > soemthing like this; this concern was raised at the previous BoF. > > Tim
- [tcmtf] Improved version (v8) of the TCM-TF chart… Jose Saldana
- Re: [tcmtf] Improved version (v8) of the TCM-TF c… Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- Re: [tcmtf] Improved version (v8) of the TCM-TF c… Jose Saldana
- Re: [tcmtf] Improved version (v8) of the TCM-TF c… Eggert, Lars
- Re: [tcmtf] Improved version (v8) of the TCM-TF c… Jose Saldana
- Re: [tcmtf] Improved version (v8) of the TCM-TF c… DAVID FLOREZ RODRIGUEZ
- Re: [tcmtf] Improved version (v8) of the TCM-TF c… Julián Fernández-Navajas
- Re: [tcmtf] Improved version (v8) of the TCM-TF c… Eggert, Lars
- Re: [tcmtf] Improved version (v8) of the TCM-TF c… Jose Saldana
- Re: [tcmtf] Improved version (v8) of the TCM-TF c… Julián Fernández-Navajas
- Re: [tcmtf] Improved version (v8) of the TCM-TF c… Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- Re: [tcmtf] Improved version (v8) of the TCM-TF c… Tim Chown
- Re: [tcmtf] Improved version (v8) of the TCM-TF c… Jose Saldana
- Re: [tcmtf] Improved version (v8) of the TCM-TF c… Jose Saldana
- Re: [tcmtf] Improved version (v8) of the TCM-TF c… Tim Chown
- Re: [tcmtf] Improved version (v8) of the TCM-TF c… Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- Re: [tcmtf] Improved version (v8) of the TCM-TF c… Jose Saldana
- Re: [tcmtf] Improved version (v8) of the TCM-TF c… Jose Saldana
- Re: [tcmtf] Improved version (v8) of the TCM-TF c… Eggert, Lars
- Re: [tcmtf] Improved version (v8) of the TCM-TF c… Jose Saldana
- Re: [tcmtf] Improved version (v8) of the TCM-TF c… Michael Ramalho (mramalho)
- Re: [tcmtf] Improved version (v8) of the TCM-TF c… Reinaldo Penno (repenno)