Re: [tcmtf] TCMTF-Feedback about a possible BoF in London

Ece Gelal <ece.gelal@airties.com> Thu, 23 January 2014 17:33 UTC

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Subject: Re: [tcmtf] TCMTF-Feedback about a possible BoF in London
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*>> If there are people willing to write the specs *and* people are also
able to express interest in writing/deploying/selling code and products
that use those specs, then we should certainly be doingthis work in the
IETF.*

To follow up on Wesley's comment above, as AirTies we *are* interested in
writing/deploying code and selling products including this code. We believe
that significant performance improvements in the home network can be
achieved by multiplexing small-payload packets into a greater one. In
particular in the wireless environment where nodes contend for channel
access, even multiplexing two packets reduces the effort for accessing the
channel by half. We think that any company that is focused on improving the
Wi-Fi performance for various applications would be excited about TCM-TF.

Regards,
Ece


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Wesley Eddy <wes@mti-systems.com>; wrote:

> On 1/8/2014 7:49 PM, Tina TSOU wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > I'm in favor of having a BoF in London, as the following problem
> > statement seems valid and needs protocol work in IETF.
> > ...
>
> I'm in agreement as well.  Parts of the problem statement and the
> scope of the work might still be tweakable, but I think that
> overall there is important work for the IETF to do in this area.
>
> Due to the things Tina described very well, there will be (and are)
> products available that attempt to optimize traffic in poorly
> documented and often poorly conceived ways.  These can do more harm
> and have other mysterious effects on traffic than whatever this
> working group would create, since it would provide open specifications
> that could be developed and tested against the concerns of relevant
> layers and other IETF protocols, and problems and concerns could be
> addressed.
>
> If there are people willing to write the specs *and* people are
> also able to express interest in writing/deploying/selling code and
> products that use those specs, then we should certainly be doing
> this work in the IETF.
>
> This will allow:
> - multiple vendor boxes to interoperate on different sides of a
>   challenged network/link (currently this is beyond the state of
>   the art!)
> - simplified/standardized management of such boxes
> - well-understood behavior profiles of such middleboxes and their
>   protocols algorithms
>
> If the IETF does not do this work, then I don't believe any of those
> three benefits/results are likely at all, and the (poor) status quo
> will continue.
>
> --
> Wes Eddy
> MTI Systems
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