Re: [tcmtf] tcmtf Digest, Vol 16, Issue 1

Charles Oloo <oloo6382@gmail.com> Tue, 08 October 2013 11:46 UTC

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Dear Jose

Thanks for info on deployment of Community Network test cases. Developing
countries with high bandwidth cost would benefit. Cant deployment case
study in Kenya.

Charles Oloo


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>    1. Community Neworks: any idea about them? (Jose Saldana)
>    2. Re: Community Neworks: any idea about them? (Guangqing Deng)
>    3. Re: Community Neworks: any idea about them? (Arjuna Sathiaseelan)
>    4. Re: Community Neworks: any idea about them? (Arjuna Sathiaseelan)
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Jose Saldana" <jsaldana@unizar.es>
> To: <tsv-area@ietf.org>
> Cc: tcmtf@ietf.org
> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 11:24:33 +0200
> Subject: [tcmtf] Community Neworks: any idea about them?
>
> Hi all.****
>
> ** **
>
> I have recently “discovered” the concept of Community Networks. They are
> “large scale, self-organized and decentralized networks, built and operated
> by citizens for citizens.” They are “also self-owned and self-managed by
> community members, self-growing in links, capacity and services provided.”
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> A paper explaining them can be found here:
> http://www.sigcomm.org/ccr/papers/2013/July/2500098.2500108****
>
> ** **
>
> Some examples: ****
>
> http://funkfeuer.at/****
>
> https://wlan-si.net/****
>
> http://www.bogota-mesh.org/en****
>
> ** **
>
> I would like to know your opinion about this:****
>
> ** **
>
> do you think this is a good idea?****
>
> ** **
>
> Can they be a good place for developing experiments?****
>
> ** **
>
> I think this can be a good solution for developing countries.****
>
> ** **
>
> In addition, regarding TCM-TF, can they be a new scenario where traffic
> optimization could be interesting? I mean, they do not have too much
> bandwidth, and they connect to the Internet through a single link in many
> cases (a bottleneck). One of the services considered is VoIP.****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks a lot!****
>
> ** **
>
> Jose****
>
> ** **
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Guangqing Deng" <dengguangqing@cnnic.cn>
> To: jsaldana <jsaldana@unizar.es>es>, "tsv-area@ietf.org" <tsv-area@ietf.org>
> Cc: tcmtf <tcmtf@ietf.org>
> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 18:20:22 +0800
> Subject: Re: [tcmtf] Community Neworks: any idea about them?
> **
>  Sounds novel and interesting. And so called community network is similar
> to peer-to-peer network to a certain extent;
> while the coverage of the former network (which is limited in a local
> community) may be less than the latter one.
>
> ------------------------------
>  Guangqing Deng
> CNNIC
>
>  *> From:* Jose Saldana <jsaldana@unizar.es>
> *> Date:* 2013-10-08 17:24
> *> To:* tsv-area@ietf.org
> *> CC:* tcmtf <tcmtf@ietf.org>
> *> Subject:* [tcmtf] Community Neworks: any idea about them?
>
> > Hi all.****
>
> ** **
>
> > I have recently “discovered” the concept of Community Networks. They are
> “large scale, self-organized and decentralized networks, built and operated
> by citizens for citizens.” They are “also self-owned and self-> > > managed
> by community members, self-growing in links, capacity and services
> provided.”****
>
> ** **
>
> > A paper explaining them can be found here:
> http://www.sigcomm.org/ccr/papers/2013/July/2500098.2500108****
>
> ** **
>
> > Some examples: ****
>
> > http://funkfeuer.at/****
>
> > https://wlan-si.net/****
>
> > http://www.bogota-mesh.org/en****
>
> ** **
>
> > I would like to know your opinion about this:****
>
> ** **
>
> > do you think this is a good idea?****
>
> ** **
>
> > Can they be a good place for developing experiments?****
>
> ** **
>
> > I think this can be a good solution for developing countries.****
>
> ** **
>
> > In addition, regarding TCM-TF, can they be a new scenario where traffic
> optimization could be interesting? I mean, they do not have too much
> bandwidth, and they connect to the Internet through a single link in > > >
> many cases (a bottleneck). One of the services considered is VoIP.****
>
> ** **
>
> > Thanks a lot!****
>
> ** **
>
> > Jose****
>
> ** **
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Arjuna Sathiaseelan <arjuna@erg.abdn.ac.uk>
> To: jsaldana@unizar.es
> Cc: tcmtf@ietf.org, tsv-area@ietf.org
> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:42:05 +0100
> Subject: Re: [tcmtf] Community Neworks: any idea about them?
> Dear Jose,
>   I would like to take this opportunity to present some of the work we
> are doing here at Cambridge -
>
> We are trying to solve the universal service problem in urban areas
> (where people cannot afford to access the Internet) using existing
> home broadband networks - home owners who have Internet connections
> share their Internet connection for free with those who dont have.
>
> We are currently doing deployments in a deprived area in Nottingham (
> see www.publicaccesswifi.org )
>
> More on the LCDNet initiative is here:
> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~as2330/lcd/index.html
>
> There are interesting possibilities to do multi-path TCP between
> aggregating multiple access points and we are exploring that option
> too.
>
> The TIER group in berkeley have done quite a lot of nice work with
> wireless for developing countries:
> tier.cs.berkeley.edu/
>
> Happy to discuss more :)
>
> Regards
> Arjuna
>
> On 8 October 2013 10:24, Jose Saldana <jsaldana@unizar.es> wrote:
> > Hi all.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have recently “discovered” the concept of Community Networks. They are
> > “large scale, self-organized and decentralized networks, built and
> operated
> > by citizens for citizens.” They are “also self-owned and self-managed by
> > community members, self-growing in links, capacity and services
> provided.”
> >
> >
> >
> > A paper explaining them can be found here:
> > http://www.sigcomm.org/ccr/papers/2013/July/2500098.2500108
> >
> >
> >
> > Some examples:
> >
> > http://funkfeuer.at/
> >
> > https://wlan-si.net/
> >
> > http://www.bogota-mesh.org/en
> >
> >
> >
> > I would like to know your opinion about this:
> >
> >
> >
> > do you think this is a good idea?
> >
> >
> >
> > Can they be a good place for developing experiments?
> >
> >
> >
> > I think this can be a good solution for developing countries.
> >
> >
> >
> > In addition, regarding TCM-TF, can they be a new scenario where traffic
> > optimization could be interesting? I mean, they do not have too much
> > bandwidth, and they connect to the Internet through a single link in many
> > cases (a bottleneck). One of the services considered is VoIP.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks a lot!
> >
> >
> >
> > Jose
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Arjuna Sathiaseelan <arjuna.sathiaseelan@gmail.com>
> To: jsaldana@unizar.es
> Cc: tcmtf@ietf.org, tsv-area@ietf.org
> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:44:07 +0100
> Subject: Re: [tcmtf] Community Neworks: any idea about them?
> Dear Jose,
>   I would like to take this opportunity to present some of the work we
> are doing here at Cambridge -
>
> We are trying to solve the universal service problem in urban areas
> (where people cannot afford to access the Internet) using existing
> home broadband networks - home owners who have Internet connections
> share their Internet connection for free with those who dont have.
>
> We are currently doing deployments in a deprived area in Nottingham (
> see www.publicaccesswifi.org )
>
> More on the LCDNet initiative is here:
> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~as2330/lcd/index.html
>
> There are interesting possibilities to do multi-path TCP between
> aggregating multiple access points and we are exploring that option
> too.
>
> The TIER group in berkeley have done quite a lot of nice work with
> wireless for developing countries:
> tier.cs.berkeley.edu/
>
> Happy to discuss more :)
>
> Regards
>
> On 8 October 2013 10:24, Jose Saldana <jsaldana@unizar.es> wrote:
> > Hi all.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have recently “discovered” the concept of Community Networks. They are
> > “large scale, self-organized and decentralized networks, built and
> operated
> > by citizens for citizens.” They are “also self-owned and self-managed by
> > community members, self-growing in links, capacity and services
> provided.”
> >
> >
> >
> > A paper explaining them can be found here:
> > http://www.sigcomm.org/ccr/papers/2013/July/2500098.2500108
> >
> >
> >
> > Some examples:
> >
> > http://funkfeuer.at/
> >
> > https://wlan-si.net/
> >
> > http://www.bogota-mesh.org/en
> >
> >
> >
> > I would like to know your opinion about this:
> >
> >
> >
> > do you think this is a good idea?
> >
> >
> >
> > Can they be a good place for developing experiments?
> >
> >
> >
> > I think this can be a good solution for developing countries.
> >
> >
> >
> > In addition, regarding TCM-TF, can they be a new scenario where traffic
> > optimization could be interesting? I mean, they do not have too much
> > bandwidth, and they connect to the Internet through a single link in many
> > cases (a bottleneck). One of the services considered is VoIP.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks a lot!
> >
> >
> >
> > Jose
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Arjuna | http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~as2330/
>
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