Re: [tcmtf] TCMTF-Feedback about a possible BoF in London

MANUEL NUÑEZ SANZ <mns@tid.es> Thu, 26 December 2013 11:18 UTC

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Subject: Re: [tcmtf] TCMTF-Feedback about a possible BoF in London
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Hi,
     With this new focus there should be no problems because the main barriers has been resolved (TCP mainly), so I am completely agreed to form a working group.  However I think it is important to know the opinion of people less convinced.

Regards,
     Manuel Núñez

De: tcmtf [mailto:tcmtf-bounces@ietf.org] En nombre de Jose Saldana
Enviado el: viernes, 20 de diciembre de 2013 10:26
Para: tcmtf@ietf.org; tsv-area@ietf.org
CC: Martin Stiemerling; 'Spencer Dawkins'
Asunto: [tcmtf] TCMTF-Feedback about a possible BoF in London

Hi all,

After the feedback received in the BoF in Berlin, we have updated the TCM-TF charter and the two drafts. We have tried to solve all the problems raised during the session.

Our plan is to request a new BoF in London next March, so we would like to know your opinion about these two questions:


1.  Is the new, reduced scope of TCM-TF suitable to form a working group?


2. We would like to kindly ask people who think that a TCM-TF Working group should be formed, to come forward and send an e-mail to the tsv-area@ietf.org<mailto:tsv-area@ietf.org>  mailing list stating it.


This feedback will allow us to get a better idea of the convenience of a BoF.

The new charter is here: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tcmtf/current/msg00465.html
This is the old one (presented in Berlin): http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tcmtf/current/msg00368.html

In these links you can see the differences between the new versions of the drafts and the old ones:
http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-saldana-tsvwg-tcmtf-06.txt&url2=draft-saldana-tsvwg-tcmtf-05.txt
http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-suznjevic-tsvwg-mtd-tcmtf-02.txt&url2=draft-suznjevic-tsvwg-mtd-tcmtf-01.txt


The main improvements are:

- TCP optimization has been removed
- The classification of the scenarios has been refined and improved. Some of them have been removed
- A section about energy consumption has been added to the main draft
- A reference to the potential problem of the MTU and packet loss has been added
- The problem of the added delays is studied in detail in the second draft

- The improvements of the charter are summarized here: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tcmtf/current/msg00466.html


Best regards,

Jose


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