Re: types of traffic in tcp congest control

Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU> Mon, 13 May 2002 18:46 UTC

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Subject: Re: types of traffic in tcp congest control
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J Wu wrote:
> On Mon, 13 May 2002, Joe Touch wrote:
> 
> 
>>Only if there _are_ elephants. In the transatlantic case, a huge number
>>of mice can swamp the connection - yes, a severe shortage. One solution
>>is to "RED" the SYN packets of new connections, or limit how many
>>connections can be established.
> 
> In this case, UDP "mice" will still congest the network.

UDP isn't a mice or elephant, since it won't backoff anyway.

 > Also, at the
> angel of core switch, how can it decide mice from elephant?

Generally it can't.

> And, is it technically possible to trace the TCP numbers at core switch?

Possible, yes. Feasible, no - the number of connections gets too large 
too fast...

Joe