[tcpinc] Consensus call: questions posed at the Berlin session
Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org> Mon, 25 July 2016 11:29 UTC
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Subject: [tcpinc] Consensus call: questions posed at the Berlin session
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Here is a list of questions posed at the Berlin session, along with the rough consensus established among those in the room. Please respond to each by number if you were not in attendance and have an opinion, especially if that differs from the meeting consensus, indicated by a * after each question. TCP-ENO 1. Eliminate the m bit for now and replace it with another z bit? (The intention is that the m bit will be defined by a later draft that makes use of it.) Y*/N 2. Eliminate length word for ENO suboptions (restricting all but the last suboption to 32 bytes of data)? Y*/N 3. Change "spec" to "TCPINC Encryption Protocol", and use "TEP" as acronym? Y*/N 4. Add RFC-5705-like key exporter mechanism? Y/N* tcpcrypt 5. Encrypt frame lengths? Y/N* ** The next question was a bit muddied, so I have separated it into two questions: 6a. Add a separate API document for tcpcrypt? Y/N* 6b. Move API description in tcpcrypt draft to a separate section of the ENO API draft? Y*/N If there is substantive disagreement on any of these questions, we will pose the question again separately and ask for a re-establishment of rough consensus among all interested parties. Please try to respond by Monday, August 1. Thanks, Kyle
- Re: [tcpinc] Consensus call: questions posed at t… Black, David
- Re: [tcpinc] Consensus call: questions posed at t… Kyle Rose
- Re: [tcpinc] Consensus call: questions posed at t… Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- [tcpinc] Consensus call: questions posed at the B… Kyle Rose