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Re: [tcpinc] Review of draft-bittau-tcpinc-tcpeno-01

Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com> Mon, 24 August 2015 21:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: [tcpinc] Review of draft-bittau-tcpinc-tcpeno-01
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On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Stephen Farrell
<stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
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> On 24/08/15 21:08, Stephen Kent wrote:
>> Watson,
>>
>> based on many years of experience dealin wit this sort of issue
>> I suggest that the relative merits (strength, etc.) of cipher suites
>> form a lattice, not a total order.
>
> Folks - Steve is I think correct here but I'm quite confused
> as to why we're having this discussion about this draft. TLS
> (if we go there) has a way of negotiating ciphersuites. So
> does tcycrypt (or it will before we're done).
>
> Discussion of AES vs. ChaCha shouldn't be popping up to this
> level should it?

So this protocol negotiates how to negotiate?

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