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Re: [tcpm] Lars Eggert's Discuss on draft-ietf-tcpm-rfc793bis-25: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

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Subject: Re: [tcpm] Lars Eggert's Discuss on draft-ietf-tcpm-rfc793bis-25: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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> 
> On Oct 11, 2021, at 1:55 AM, Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On 2021-10-8, at 22:14, Wesley Eddy <wes@mti-systems.com <mailto:wes@mti-systems.com>> wrote:
>> On 9/20/2021 10:18 AM, Lars Eggert via Datatracker wrote:
>>> Section 3.1. , paragraph 50, comment:
>>>>     Note: There is ongoing work to extend the space available for TCP
>>>>     options, such as [64].
>>> draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-edo has been dead for four years, not sure how useful it is
>>> to point to.
>> 
>> I didn't change this, because I recall it being mentioned in the WG that it was felt to be useful to point to, if only to avoid someone proposing yet another way of dealing with this.
> 
> for an RFC, esp. one that is expected to be quite long-lived, I don't think referring to ongoing work is such a great idea, since that won't age well. Maybe how you are referring to that document could be rephrased?

To repeat my post from 9/30/21, which was not responded to:

Were drafts not archived by the IETF, I would agree, but they are, so they remain useful.

Further, it isn’t “dead”; it hasn’t changed. I no longer perform in-place updates when there are no changes.

I discussed how to move it forward with the chairs in July 2020. Based on that discussion the deadline was moved to Nov 2022, largely due to my limited cycles for concurrent drafts, focusing on 2140bis first.

Regardless, it remains a comprehensive description of the issues.

Joe

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