Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-nishida-tcpm-agg-syn-ext-00.txt
Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> Mon, 08 February 2021 22:42 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-nishida-tcpm-agg-syn-ext-00.txt
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That sounds like a very serious bug. It would be important to get it fixed before we all waste time trying to adapt to it. Joe > On Feb 8, 2021, at 2:16 PM, Matthew Luckie <mjl@caida.org> wrote: > > Hi Richard, > >> On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 10:46:45PM +0100, Scheffenegger, Richard wrote: >> Hi Yoshi, >> >> Sorry to nitpick - in your draft, you mention that some hosts reflect >> back unknown tcp options, which is why you are using different GID >> mappings between SYN and SYN,ACK. >> >> I did read about this behavior concerning TCP header flags / reserved >> bits - but have not come across a paper where this behavior is described >> for unknown TCP options (or I may have missed that aspect in the various >> studies around TCP option investigations done by MPTCP and other groups). > > There is some discussion of systems that seem to reflect TCP options here: > > http://blog.multipath-tcp.org/blog/html/2018/12/19/which_servers_use_multipath_tcp.html > > Matthew_______________________________________________ > tcpm mailing list > tcpm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tcpm
- [tcpm] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-nishida-tcpm-agg-sy… Yoshifumi Nishida
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-nishida-tcpm-agg-syn… Joseph Touch
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-nishida-tcpm-agg-syn… Yoshifumi Nishida
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-nishida-tcpm-agg-syn… Joseph Touch
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-nishida-tcpm-agg-syn… Joseph Touch
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-nishida-tcpm-agg-syn… Yoshifumi Nishida
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-nishida-tcpm-agg-syn… Scheffenegger, Richard
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-nishida-tcpm-agg-syn… Matthew Luckie
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-nishida-tcpm-agg-syn… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-nishida-tcpm-agg-syn… Scheffenegger, Richard
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-nishida-tcpm-agg-syn… Scheffenegger, Richard
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-nishida-tcpm-agg-syn… Yoshifumi Nishida
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-nishida-tcpm-ag… Kangjiao
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-nishida-tcpm-ag… Yoshifumi Nishida
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-nishida-tcpm-agg-syn… Joseph Touch
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-nishida-tcpm-agg-syn… Yoshifumi Nishida
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-nishida-tcpm-agg-syn… Joseph Touch
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-nishida-tcpm-agg-syn… Yoshifumi Nishida
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-nishida-tcpm-agg-syn… Joseph Touch
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-nishida-tcpm-agg-syn… Yoshifumi Nishida
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-nishida-tcpm-agg-syn… Jan Rüth
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-nishida-tcpm-agg-syn… Yoshifumi Nishida