Re: [tcpm] draft-ananth-tcpm-persist-00.txt as a WG document

"John Heffner" <> Tue, 30 September 2008 06:10 UTC

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Subject: Re: [tcpm] draft-ananth-tcpm-persist-00.txt as a WG document
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On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 12:37 PM, David Borman
<> wrote:
> At Dublin a presentation was made on draft-ananth-tcpm-persist-00.txt.  Not
> a lot of people had read the document at the time of the presentation, but
> there didn't seem to be any objections to adopting it as a TCPM WG document.
> The authors posted a summary to the mailing list, have responded to all
> issues that were raised, and have a new version of the document ready for
> publication.  We (Wes and I) feel that there is support for adopting this as
> a WG document, but as always, we need to verify this on the mailing list.
>  So, if you have any objections to adopting this as a WG document, please
> speak up now.  Also speak up if you support adopting it as a WG document.
> I'll be the first to say I support adopting this as a WG document.  If there
> are no serious objections, the authors can submit their updated version next
> week and Wes and I will add it to our list of WG documents.

I have reservations about moving forward with this draft as a wg
document.  While the information is technically correct, it is overly
specific to the point of possibly being misleading rather than
clarifying.  An operating system may terminate a tcp connection at any
time, not just when the connection is in the persist state.  Further,
I would actually argue that terminating a connection *because* it's in
the persist state is a bad idea and should be discouraged.  (The
reason for termination should be for its use of resources, not TCP's

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