Re: [tcpm] WGLC for draft-ietf-tcpm-2140bis

Yuchung Cheng <ycheng@google.com> Thu, 25 June 2020 21:03 UTC

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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 14:02:38 -0700
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] WGLC for draft-ietf-tcpm-2140bis
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On
"Because this is similar to the case
   when a connection becomes idle, mechanisms that address idle TCP
   connections (e.g., [RFC7661]) could also be applied to TCB cache
   management, especially when TCP Fast Open is used [RFC7413]"

Why do TFO-started idle connections benefit this particularly?


On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:40 PM Joseph Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> wrote:
>
> I’m guessing the views of the authors is gratuitous, but to at least be explicit:
>
> +1
>
> Joe
>
> > On Jun 12, 2020, at 2:56 AM, Scharf, Michael <Michael.Scharf@hs-esslingen.de> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I haven't seen any reply so far. Lack of _any_ feedback is not a particularly good sign.
> >
> > Anyway, no feedback implies that the document is ready to move forward. However, even in that case explicit support for publication  would be _really_ useful. A simple "+1" could be enough...
> >
> > I'll extend the WGLC by one week until June 21 to give the community some additional time to comment.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Scharf, Michael <Michael.Scharf@hs-esslingen.de>
> >> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 8:06 PM
> >> To: tcpm@ietf.org
> >> Cc: tcpm-chairs <tcpm-chairs@ietf.org>
> >> Subject: WGLC for draft-ietf-tcpm-2140bis
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> The document "TCP Control Block Interdependence" (draft-ietf-tcpm-
> >> 2140bis) is out there for a quite some time already. Given that there has
> >> been a bit less activity on the list after the interim, let's use this opportunity
> >> to finish one of our milestones...
> >>
> >> This e-mail starts a WGLG for the document draft-ietf-tcpm-2140bis. The
> >> WGLC will run until ***June 14***.
> >>
> >> The intended status is an informational RFC. The current version of the
> >> document can be found at:
> >>
> >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tcpm-2140bis-05
> >>
> >> Please review the latest version and please let us know any comments or
> >> suggestions. TCPM needs reviews to ensure that the content is ready to
> >> move forward. Feedback supporting publication ("+1") is also very welcome.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Michael, on behalf of the TCPM chairs
> >
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