Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05: suggested text

Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU> Tue, 18 July 2006 19:56 UTC

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Pekka Savola wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Ted Faber wrote:
>> I've attached some text that I'd like to propose for the Security
>> Considerations secition of this draft in an effort to make its scope
>> clear and hopefully address some of Joe's concerns about ICMP.
>>
>> This is just me, a participant, making the suggestion.
>>
>> Text is attached.  Let me know what you think.
> 
> I'm having practical problems with the second paragraph (the rest looks
> OK).  It seems to imply that RFC 4301 adequately discusses the issues
> and is a useful starting point for developing a prevention policy _in
> practice_ (as very few sessions can use IPsec to prevent from ICMP
> attacks).  My belief is that both of these implications are incorrect.

6.1.1 might be the more relevant particular section; it talks about
receipt of unprotected (un-IPsec'd) ICMPs.

> On the other hand, I'd replace the text with references to
> tcpm-antispoof and tcpm-icmp-attacks which both go to some length in
> discussing this issue.  The former could be cited in the first
> paragraph, the latter provided as a main discussion of ICMP attacks in
> the second paragraph.

The other references might be useful, but pointing directly to 6.1.1 is
less indirect and more to the point about the tradeoff of protection vs.
responsiveness.

Joe

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