Re: [tcpm] TCP EDO and SYN-EXT-OPT finalization - request for discussion

Yoshifumi Nishida <nsd.ietf@gmail.com> Mon, 24 October 2022 17:14 UTC

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Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2022 10:13:56 -0700
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] TCP EDO and SYN-EXT-OPT finalization - request for discussion
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Hi Joe,

Thanks for the update. Could you elaborate the changes a bit more? I am
sorry that I missed what the feedback was.
--
Yoshi

On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 4:25 PM touch@strayalpha.com <touch@strayalpha.com>
wrote:

> FYI - both docs have been updated.
>
> The EDO doc includes some long-pending changes based on feedback from
> Michael Scharf, regarding TSO. It should be ready for WGLC.
>
> Joe
>
> —
> Dr. Joe Touch, temporal epistemologist
> www.strayalpha.com
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> On Mar 4, 2022, at 11:05 AM, touch@strayalpha.com wrote:
>
> Hi, all,
>
> I’d like to request:
>
> a) WGLC for EDO
>
> b) some sort of WG decision on whether to adopt it as experimental (and,
> AFAICT, go to WGLC, given we’re already been around the block with it) or
> give me the go-ahead to submit it as individual experimental
>
> Both drafts are active through April, so I’ll hold on re-issuing until (b).
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> —
> Dr. Joe Touch, temporal epistemologist
> www.strayalpha.com
>
> On Oct 12, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Wesley Eddy <wes@mti-systems.com> wrote:
>
> On 10/12/2021 3:50 PM, touch@strayalpha.com wrote:
>
>
> - are there any open issues or pending suggestions to TCP EDO to prepare
> it for last call?
>
> I think it's in good shape for a last call.  It's stable and addresses all
> of the feedback to date, aside from greater implementation and field
> experience.  At the moment, it seems like QUIC has solved the burning need
> we had for TCP options space, by attracting all the work that would
> normally need more options. However, after many years of discussion about
> how to handle this for TCP, and many candidates, the EDO approach was the
> one the working group was able to get consensus around, and we really
> should wrap up and publish it, IMHO.
>
>
> - would the WG like to adopt SYN-EXT-OPT as experimental as well or would
> it be preferred (and OK) to submit this as individual/experimental if not?
>
> Either approach is fine with me, and I prefer either of them rather than
> not advancing anything.  I would be willing to contribute reviews for
> either path.
>
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