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Re: [tcpm] Concluding WGLC for draft-ietf-tcpm-rfc8312bis-03

Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org> Tue, 31 August 2021 11:10 UTC

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Subject: Re: [tcpm] Concluding WGLC for draft-ietf-tcpm-rfc8312bis-03
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Hi Markku,

On 2021-8-30, at 19:33, Markku Kojo <kojo=40cs.helsinki.fi@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> My sincere apologies as this comes very late in the process but I was not able to follow IETF mailing list at the time of WGLC nor during the recent weeks, and I couldn't attend IETF 111.

it's always a bit disappointing to get a long review just when you thought you were done, but it will lead to a better document in the end - so thank you for your review!

We've created a bunch of GitHub issues based on the issues you identified, and will work on resolutions there. Do you have a GitHub ID we can use to tag you?

> 1. ECN
> 
> a) The draft modifies RFC 3168 when ECE arrives and would result
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https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/83

> b) RFC 8311 (sec 4.1) allows modifying the TCP-sender response to
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https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/84

> c) ABE (RFC 8511) is currently the only experimental RFC to modify
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https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/85

> 2. Slow-Start Overshoot w/ loss-based congestion conrol
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https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/86

> 3. RACK (and QUIC)
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https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/87

> 4. Fairness to AIMD congestion control
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https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/88

> 5. Contribution to buffer bloat and slower convergence due to
>   larger decrease factor
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https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/89

> 6. Citing Experimental RFCs as if being a part of CUBIC
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https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/90

> 7. Discussion
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https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/91

> Sec 5.1
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https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/92

> Sec 5.3
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https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/93

> Sec 5.4
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https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/94

> Sec 5.5
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https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/95

> Sec 5.6
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https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/96

> Sec 5.8
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https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/97

> Sec 5.9
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https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/98

> 8. The draft says in the intro that CUBIC is to be regarded as *current standard* for TCP
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https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/99

> Misc comments:
> 
> _epoch_start_: needs more accurate and consistent definition when the exactly the epoch

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https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/100

> In many occassions:
> "(upon receiving) an ACK" -> "(upon receiving) a new ACK"

https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/101

> On page 13:
https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/102

Thanks,
Lars

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