Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13.txt
Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> Mon, 27 May 2013 16:54 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13.txt
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On 5/27/2013 3:19 AM, Pasi Sarolahti wrote: ... > MUST drop all (non-RST) segments without timestamp seems indeed > In the worst case this might discourage enabling timestamps at all, > if an implementation wants to be safe against middleboxes as > described. We've gone through this multiple times for different issues on this mailing list, and have addressed it in the context of this ID in detail. RST is the *only* way TCP cleans up old connection state. TCP doesn't keep things tidy; it cleans up state only when it gets in the way of a new connection. RSTs that happen after a reboot won't necessarily have any state from the previous connection. ANY requirement about those RSTs *will* interfere with TCP state cleanup, and hosts could end up with the net effect of a "memory leak" for all connections that are interrupted by a reboot. That's why RSTs MUST NEVER require anything - even, IMO, a handshake (as per RFC 5691). Joe
- [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13.txt internet-drafts
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Yuchung Cheng
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Yuchung Cheng
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Scheffenegger, Richard
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Scheffenegger, Richard
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Yuchung Cheng
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Pasi Sarolahti
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Christoph Paasch
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Scheffenegger, Richard
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Pasi Sarolahti
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Pasi Sarolahti
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Scheffenegger, Richard
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Pasi Sarolahti
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Pasi Sarolahti
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Scheffenegger, Richard
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… l.wood
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Pasi Sarolahti
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Tim Shepard
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Scheffenegger, Richard
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Andre Oppermann
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Yuchung Cheng
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Jakob Heitz
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Pasi Sarolahti
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-13… Joe Touch