[tcpm] Proceeding 8312bis draft (Re: 2nd WGLC for draft-ietf-tcpm-rfc8312bis)

Yoshifumi Nishida <nsd.ietf@gmail.com> Mon, 28 February 2022 10:07 UTC

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From: Yoshifumi Nishida <nsd.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 02:06:52 -0800
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Subject: [tcpm] Proceeding 8312bis draft (Re: 2nd WGLC for draft-ietf-tcpm-rfc8312bis)
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Hi,

We've been discussing how to proceed 8312bis draft, but I think we still
haven't settled yet.
In my understanding, there seems to be the following options so far.
if you have some thoughts on them or you have other options for this,
please share.
BTW, please note that this discussion might affect our future drafts
because we want to apply the same bar for all standard docs as much as
possible.

1: Publish the draft as a non-standard doc
    a: publish as an informational doc

    b: publish as an experimental doc
        * we might need to describe what experiments are expected.

2: Publish the draft as a PS doc
    a: do additional experiments to make sure there's no concern as a PS
doc.
        * we will need to decide what kinds of experiments are required,
what would be the expected results before the experiments.
        * we need to delay the publication of the doc until the validation
of the experiments has finished

    b: publish an additional doc that describes the checking points on the
doc (and other related docs) for long term analysis.

Thanks,
--
Yoshi


On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 11:43 PM Yoshifumi Nishida <nsd.ietf@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> After some discussions among chairs, we decided to run the 2nd WGLC on
> draft-ietf-tcpm-rfc8312bis in consideration of the importance of the draft.
> We'll be grateful if you could send your feedback to the ML. The WGLC runs
> until *Feb 11*.
>
> If interested, you can check in-depth past discussions in the following
> URL.
> https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/
>
> Thank you so much!
> --
> tcpm co-chairs
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 2:50 AM Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> this -06 version rolls in all the changes requested during (and after)
>> WGLC ended.
>>
>> I'll leave it up to the chairs to decide if another WGLC is warranted or
>> the document can progress as-is.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lars
>>
>>
>> > On 2022-1-26, at 11:12, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>> directories.
>> > This draft is a work item of the TCP Maintenance and Minor Extensions
>> WG of the IETF.
>> >
>> >        Title           : CUBIC for Fast and Long-Distance Networks
>> >        Authors         : Lisong Xu
>> >                          Sangtae Ha
>> >                          Injong Rhee
>> >                          Vidhi Goel
>> >                          Lars Eggert
>> >       Filename        : draft-ietf-tcpm-rfc8312bis-06.txt
>> >       Pages           : 35
>> >       Date            : 2022-01-26
>> >
>> > Abstract:
>> >   CUBIC is a standard TCP congestion control algorithm that uses a
>> >   cubic function instead of a linear congestion window increase
>> >   function to improve scalability and stability over fast and long-
>> >   distance networks.  CUBIC has been adopted as the default TCP
>> >   congestion control algorithm by the Linux, Windows, and Apple stacks.
>> >
>> >   This document updates the specification of CUBIC to include
>> >   algorithmic improvements based on these implementations and recent
>> >   academic work.  Based on the extensive deployment experience with
>> >   CUBIC, it also moves the specification to the Standards Track,
>> >   obsoleting RFC 8312.  This also requires updating RFC 5681, to allow
>> >   for CUBIC's occasionally more aggressive sending behavior.
>> >
>> >
>> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tcpm-rfc8312bis/
>> >
>> > There is also an HTML version available at:
>> > https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-tcpm-rfc8312bis-06.html
>> >
>> > A diff from the previous version is available at:
>> > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-tcpm-rfc8312bis-06
>> >
>> >
>> > Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org:
>> :internet-drafts
>> >
>> >
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