Re: [tcpm] TCPM and draft-ietf-tcpm-icmp-attacks

[Joe Touch <[e-mail]>]

Fernando Gont wrote:
> Joe Touch wrote:
> 
>>>> Yes, please do note it. "proposed" doesn't mean recommended.
>>> Are you serious? Do I really have to go through the mailing-list archive
>>> to provide you with a list of all those times in which you trashed the
>>> doc for the instances of terms such as "proposed", "propose", etc.?
>>
>> There is a difference between "there are mechanisms [that are] proposed"
>> and "this document proposes".
> 
> Don't both of them imply the same thing????!??? :-)

No, they do not. The WG cannot prevent others from proposing something,
but it makes its own decisions on what to propose.

>> The text in AO was unchanged since the -00 version (Nov 2007). You
>> waited until after last call to complain about adding specific calls for
>> ICMP actions. 
> 
> Look at this:
> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tcpm/current/msg04593.html
> 
> Is June 16th, 2009 what you call last-minute???????

It was raised as you cite, discussed at the WG meeting in Stockholm, and
we proceeding with the result from that meeting (see slide 8). There was
then a last call, at which you did not yet again raise the issue.

Joe