Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-tcp-timestamps-03
Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU> Fri, 26 March 2010 23:51 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-tcp-timestamps-03
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Presuming this is the path forward, one issue that needs to be addressed: - what happens when one side assumes the timestamps are monotonically increasing, but they're not As recent exchanges suggest, there are possible reasons why either side might want to implement timestamps differently. In that case, it's might not be realistic to assume monotonicity. It's not appropriate to consider client/server roles here; the issue is who shuts down the connection and thus holds the TIME_WAIT - that is often the server, but need not be. Overall, if this suggestion requires the TIME_WAIT side assume properties of the other end, it may *require* a flag to ensure. Given we're not talking about such a flag, the entire mechanism may be moot as a result. Joe
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Alfred Hönes
- [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-tcp-t… Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Alfred Hönes
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… L.Wood
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… John Heffner
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Alexander Zimmermann
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Alexander Zimmermann
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Christian Huitema
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-gont-tcpm-t… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis Scheffenegger, Richard