Return-Path: X-Original-To: tcpm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tcpm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7811E1A0013 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 02:50:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.553 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.553 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qQzfdD7FZa1j for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 02:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx12.netapp.com (mx12.netapp.com [216.240.18.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 421451A0012 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 02:50:02 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,1043,1389772800"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="164004398" Received: from vmwexceht05-prd.hq.netapp.com ([10.106.77.35]) by mx12-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 13 May 2014 02:49:52 -0700 Received: from SACEXCMBX01-PRD.hq.netapp.com ([169.254.2.246]) by vmwexceht05-prd.hq.netapp.com ([10.106.77.35]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Tue, 13 May 2014 02:49:52 -0700 From: "Eggert, Lars" To: Brandon Williams Thread-Topic: [tcpm] New Version Notification for draft-williams-exp-tcp-host-id-opt-03.txt Thread-Index: AQHPZIO1u/26rztc9k+fT3iqOb4u6Jsq/h4AgA3Y3ICABcuAAIAAKzQA Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 09:49:51 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20140430142220.21274.18191.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <53610C3B.6070006@akamai.com> <53614C68.8040301@mti-systems.com> <536CEA0D.1040101@akamai.com> <6605BCC3-034D-417C-8B6D-F701F4585887@netapp.com> In-Reply-To: <6605BCC3-034D-417C-8B6D-F701F4585887@netapp.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.122.105.19] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_5A8C8FD5-AF6C-44DC-AFB9-CF10A512FDAA"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tcpm/JxsDKp3A_KlPjK5PZErC2nnvS5Y Cc: "tcpm@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [tcpm] New Version Notification for draft-williams-exp-tcp-host-id-opt-03.txt X-BeenThere: tcpm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: TCP Maintenance and Minor Extensions Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 09:50:04 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_5A8C8FD5-AF6C-44DC-AFB9-CF10A512FDAA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii PS: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7258 came out today On 2014-5-13, at 9:15, Eggert, Lars wrote: > Hi, >=20 > apart from the technical disagreement I have with the document, there = is a broader political issue here. >=20 > The IETF has come to broad consensus that pervasive surveillance = represents an attack on the Internet, and that we are taking engineering = steps to protect privacy. (See http://www.ietf.org/blog/2013/11/ for = example.) >=20 > Having middleboxes tag flows with options that make identifying = individuals easier goes directly against that stated goal. >=20 > Lars > _______________________________________________ > tcpm mailing list > tcpm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tcpm --Apple-Mail=_5A8C8FD5-AF6C-44DC-AFB9-CF10A512FDAA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQCVAwUBU3HqvtZcnpRveo1xAQJa7gP9GkP0X8vOIH8uWiriMmE8vhf5KNss0dV9 kITjZwClv69Ti594tviQcuO/83egH4cU//y7fyAaFgjppQzWb2ReGcnBkvan+ztv XsmISpi4GUkrYGHQhP63TZJZuXNRdV4Ryny7hYeHUr1FSmsy/M0Bvqa7jAtoFyEa fr1+C8XJrC4= =KgxW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_5A8C8FD5-AF6C-44DC-AFB9-CF10A512FDAA--