Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend?
Mark Allman <mallman@icir.org> Fri, 28 September 2007 18:18 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend?
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(Hat on. I just talked to Ted about this and he is in agreement with this request, but has not seen the text I am about to type ...) It seems to me that this discussion is really divergent because there is no applicability statement in the document, per Lars' comment. I wonder if you guys could go off and generate such a statement and then we could re-visit this question. I think that would factor things into a question of "where" this is applicable and then how strongly we want to advocate these mitigations within that context. Is that reasonable? Thanks, allman
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- [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Pekka Savola
- RE: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Agarwal, Anil
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Wesley Eddy
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? David Borman
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Lars Eggert
- RE: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Agarwal, Anil
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Ted Faber
- RE: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Tom Petch
- RE: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Mitesh Dalal (mdalal)
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Tim Shepard
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Joe Touch
- RE: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Tim Shepard
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Joe Touch
- RE: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- RE: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? toby.moncaster
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Joe Touch
- RE: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Joe Touch
- RE: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Joe Touch
- RE: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Joe Touch
- RE: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Joe Touch
- [tcpm] BTNS usage for BGP Pekka Savola
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- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Mark Allman
- RE: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- RE: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Mark Allman
- RE: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Mark Allman
- RE: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Joe Touch
- RE: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Joe Touch
- RE: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Mitesh Dalal (mdalal)
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Mark Allman
- RE: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Joe Touch
- RE: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Mark Allman
- RE: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Edward A. Gardner
- RE: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Mitesh Dalal (mdalal)
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Lars Eggert
- RE: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Joe Touch
- RE: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Joe Touch
- RE: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? touch
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? touch
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend? Joe Touch