Re: [tcpm] question about TCP-AO and rekeying
Eric Rescorla <ekr@networkresonance.com> Wed, 17 June 2009 14:09 UTC
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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@networkresonance.com>
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] question about TCP-AO and rekeying
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At Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:24:55 -0700, Joe Touch wrote: > Eric Rescorla wrote: > ... > >> However, the invariant is twofold: > >> > >> a) for a given packet, only one MKT applies > >> > >> b) for two endpoints with multiple MKTs, > >> the *same* MKT applies. > > > > I don't see that this is true. As I understand the current design > > there's no reason that both sides can't use different MKTs > > indefinitely. > > Each side can use a different MKT to transmit. However, if side A uses > MKT X to transmit, then side B needs to know to use MKT X to receive. If > side A matches MKT X on transmit and side B matches MKT Y on receive, > then there's a problem for that connection. > > So let's rephrase, recognizing that there are two MKTs at any given time > (one for transmit on each side, and the same pair for receive on the > opposite side). > > b) for two endpoints, if a given packet matches MKT on one side during > transmit, it must match the corresponding MKT on the other side during > receive. Right, but this doesn't require ordering or non-overlapping, as far as I can tell. It merely requires that at any time there only be one MKT corresponding to any given socketpair/key-id. -Ekr
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