Re: [tcpm] TCP EDO and SYN-EXT-OPT finalization - request for discussion

[Joe Touch <[e-mail]>]

The feedback concerned the issue of TSO and other offloading mechanisms and how their (mis)handling of unknown options affects this one. A fundamental rule of options is that “if you don’t know what it is, then don’t attempt to aggregate segments with that option”. If you do that here, it corrupts data.

Joe

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 10:14 AM, Yoshifumi Nishida <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Joe,
> 
> Thanks for the update. Could you elaborate the changes a bit more? I am sorry that I missed what the feedback was. 
> --
> Yoshi
> 
>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 4:25 PM [e-mail] <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> FYI - both docs have been updated.
>> 
>> The EDO doc includes some long-pending changes based on feedback from Michael Scharf, regarding TSO. It should be ready for WGLC.
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> —
>> Dr. Joe Touch, temporal epistemologist
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>>> On Mar 4, 2022, at 11:05 AM, [e-mail] wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, all,
>>> 
>>> I’d like to request:
>>> 
>>> a) WGLC for EDO
>>> 
>>> b) some sort of WG decision on whether to adopt it as experimental (and, AFAICT, go to WGLC, given we’re already been around the block with it) or give me the go-ahead to submit it as individual experimental
>>> 
>>> Both drafts are active through April, so I’ll hold on re-issuing until (b).
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> —
>>> Dr. Joe Touch, temporal epistemologist
>>> www.strayalpha.com
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 12, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Wesley Eddy <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/12/2021 3:50 PM, [e-mail] wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> - are there any open issues or pending suggestions to TCP EDO to prepare it for last call?
>>>>> 
>>>> I think it's in good shape for a last call.  It's stable and addresses all of the feedback to date, aside from greater implementation and field experience.  At the moment, it seems like QUIC has solved the burning need we had for TCP options space, by attracting all the work that would normally need more options. However, after many years of discussion about how to handle this for TCP, and many candidates, the EDO approach was the one the working group was able to get consensus around, and we really should wrap up and publish it, IMHO.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> - would the WG like to adopt SYN-EXT-OPT as experimental as well or would it be preferred (and OK) to submit this as individual/experimental if not?
>>>>> 
>>>> Either approach is fine with me, and I prefer either of them rather than not advancing anything.  I would be willing to contribute reviews for either path.
>>>> 
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