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Re: [tcpm] Proceeding CUBIC draft - thoughts and late follow-up

Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> Wed, 22 June 2022 11:33 UTC

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From: Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com>
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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2022 07:33:34 -0400
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] Proceeding CUBIC draft - thoughts and late follow-up
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> On Jun 22, 2022, at 1:27 AM, Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net> wrote:
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> What I can tell is what is *lost* by not recognizing CUBIC as a standard: the credibility of the IETF.

But if it becomes a without due examination of impact, the IETF becomes a rubberstamping organization.

If that’s what’s being asked here, it should be published as informational with warnings as to why it is not publishable as a standard. 

> It would be yet another coat for painting it as hanging to obsolete old things rather than acknowledging how the Internet actually works.

I agree, in a sense. It would recognize that the way the Internet actually “works” is to deploy new features operationally and assume that if failures cannot be directly attributed, they must not exist. I.e., cheat if you can get away with it.

I’m not saying they do here, but also that they have not yet been shown absent either.

Joe

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