Re: [tcpm] Tuning TCP parameters for the 21st century
Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU> Tue, 14 July 2009 14:16 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] Tuning TCP parameters for the 21st century
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Erik Nordmark wrote: > Jerry Chu wrote: > >> From our own measurement of world wide RTT distribution to Google servers >> we believe 3secs is too conservative, and like to propose it to be >> reduced >> to 1sec. >> >> Why does it matter? >> >> We have seen SYN-ACK retransmission rates upto a few percentage points to >> some of our servers. We also have indirect data showing the SYN (client >> side) retransmission to be non-negligible (~1.42% worldwide). At a rate > >> 1% a large RTO value can have a significant negative impact on the >> average >> end2end latency, hence the user experience. This is especially true for >> short connections, including much of the web traffic. > > For short web traffic I'd assume many of the connections go to a server > with which the client has recently had a tcp connection. > > What would be the pros and cons of using the cached rtt measurements > from previous connections for the SYN You can use more than cached RTT; the technique and some other cacheable items are described in RFC2140. The pro is more rapid convergence to an accurate RTT; the con is that you're using a potentially invalid RTT, but then that's what you do when you start without knowing the RTT at all anyway. It has also been implemented in Linux; see RFC4614. Joe -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkpckwkACgkQE5f5cImnZruYrQCgkCe/wm7W4F78Iy9K5gEcMtj5 xekAoMbbvAXZA230zsKCxsdy3toZA+1N =o0dt -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
- [tcpm] Tuning TCP parameters for the 21st century Jerry Chu
- Re: [tcpm] Tuning TCP parameters for the 21st cen… Erik Nordmark
- Re: [tcpm] Tuning TCP parameters for the 21st cen… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] Tuning TCP parameters for the 21st cen… Jerry Chu
- Re: [tcpm] Tuning TCP parameters for the 21st cen… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] Tuning TCP parameters for the 21st cen… Jerry Chu
- Re: [tcpm] Tuning TCP parameters for the 21st cen… Jerry Chu
- Re: [tcpm] Tuning TCP parameters for the 21st cen… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] Tuning TCP parameters for the 21st cen… Michael Scharf
- Re: [tcpm] Tuning TCP parameters for the 21st cen… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] Tuning TCP parameters for the 21st cen… michawe
- Re: [tcpm] Tuning TCP parameters for the 21st cen… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] Tuning TCP parameters for the 21st cen… Jerry Chu
- Re: [tcpm] Tuning TCP parameters for the 21st cen… Rui Paulo
- Re: [tcpm] Tuning TCP parameters for the 21st cen… Jerry Chu
- Re: [tcpm] Tuning TCP parameters for the 21st cen… Jerry Chu
- Re: [tcpm] Tuning TCP parameters for the 21st cen… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] Tuning TCP parameters for the 21st cen… Michael Welzl
- Re: [tcpm] Tuning TCP parameters for the 21st cen… Jerry Chu
- Re: [tcpm] Tuning TCP parameters for the 21st cen… Jerry Chu
- Re: [tcpm] Tuning TCP parameters for the 21st cen… Michael Welzl
- [tcpm] initial RTO (was Re: Tuning TCP parameters… Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] initial RTO (was Re: Tuning TCP parame… Jerry Chu
- Re: [tcpm] initial RTO (was Re: Tuning TCP parame… Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] initial RTO (was Re: Tuning TCP parame… Jerry Chu
- Re: [tcpm] initial RTO (was Re: Tuning TCP parame… Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] initial RTO (was Re: Tuning TCP parame… L.Wood
- Re: [tcpm] initial RTO (was Re: Tuning TCP parame… Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] initial RTO (was Re: Tuning TCP parame… L.Wood
- Re: [tcpm] initial RTO (was Re: Tuning TCP parame… Jerry Chu
- Re: [tcpm] initial RTO (was Re: Tuning TCP parame… Jerry Chu
- Re: [tcpm] initial RTO (was Re: Tuning TCP parame… Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] initial RTO (was Re: Tuning TCP parame… Jerry Chu
- Re: [tcpm] initial RTO (was Re: Tuning TCP parame… Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] initial RTO (was Re: Tuning TCP parame… Jerry Chu