Re: [tcpm] Roman Danyliw's No Objection on draft-ietf-tcpm-rfc793bis-25: (with COMMENT)

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Subject: Re: [tcpm] Roman Danyliw's No Objection on draft-ietf-tcpm-rfc793bis-25: (with COMMENT)
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Hi Joe!

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Subject: Re: [tcpm] Roman Danyliw's No Objection on draft-ietf-tcpm-rfc793bis-25: (with COMMENT)

Note below...
—
Joe Touch, temporal epistemologist
www.strayalpha.com<http://www.strayalpha.com>


On Sep 22, 2021, at 8:59 PM, Roman Danyliw via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org<mailto:noreply@ietf.org>> wrote:

Roman Danyliw has entered the following ballot position for
draft-ietf-tcpm-rfc793bis-25: No Objection
...


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COMMENT:
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** Section 7.
  In order to fully protect TCP connections (including their control
  flags) IPsec or the TCP Authentication Option (TCP-AO) [36] are the
  only current effective methods. Other methods discussed in this
  section may protect the payload

The text should be more precise on what “protect” means.  IPSec and TCP-AO
provide different security services.  IPSec will provide confidentiality and
integrity, but TCP-AO only provides the latter.

It doesn’t have to; see  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-touch-tcp-ao-encrypt

[Roman] Interesting. Thanks for the pointer.

[Roman] I still recommend being clearer on what “protect” means by explicitly enumerating the security services provided.

Roman

Roman