Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05: suggested text
Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU> Tue, 18 July 2006 21:09 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05: suggested text
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Ted Faber wrote: > I've attached some text that I'd like to propose for the Security > Considerations secition of this draft in an effort to make its scope > clear and hopefully address some of Joe's concerns about ICMP. > > This is just me, a participant, making the suggestion. > > Text is attached. Let me know what you think. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Implementors should be aware that the attacks detailed in this > specification are not the only attacks available to an off-path attacker > and that the countermeasures described herein are not a comprehensive > defense against such attacks. > > In particular, administrators should be aware that forged ICMP messages > provide off-path attackers the opportunity to disrupt connections or > degrade service. Such attacks may be subject to even less scrutiny than > the TCP attacks addressed here, especially in stacks not tuned for > hostile environments. Section 6.1 of RFC4301 describes the issues > associated with unauthenticated ICMP messages, e.g., messages from an > off-path attacker, and is a good starting point for formulating a policy > on those messages. I'd say 6.1.1 is more relevant; 6.1 as a whole also addresses ICMPs from inside protected boundaries, which is not applicable outside IPsec. > In any case, this RFC details only part of a complete strategy to > prevent off-path attackers from disrupting services that use TCP. > Administrators and implementors should consider the other attack vectors > and determine appropriate mitigations in securing their systems. Modulo above, that looks fine to me. Joe
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- [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Pekka Savola
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Pekka Savola
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Randall Stewart
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Randall Stewart
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Fernando Gont
- RE: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Fernando Gont
- RE: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Joe Touch
- RE: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Ted Faber
- RE: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Fernando Gont
- RE: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Mitesh Dalal (mdalal)
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Joe Touch
- RE: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05: suggested … Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05: suggested … Pekka Savola
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05: suggested … Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05: suggested … Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05: suggested … Randall Stewart
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05: suggested … Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05: suggested … Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05: suggested … Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05 Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05: suggested … Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05: suggested … Ted Faber
- [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05: suggested … Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05: suggested … Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05: suggested … Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] feedcback on tcp-secure-05: suggested … Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft Joe Touch