Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8257 (6697)
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8257 (6697)
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Thank you Bob for providing a complete suggestion. Section 3.3 is titled Processing Echoed Congestion Indications on the Sender, so probably this should include Congestion Window Reduction as well. That’s why I suggested to create two sub-sections. Alternatively, we can also use your suggestion by re-titling Section 3.3, something like, Section 3.3 Computing Moving Average of ECN Feedback Section 3.4 Reducing Congestion Window based on ECN Feedback Section 3.5 Handling of Congestion Window Growth … Thanks, Vidhi > On Sep 30, 2021, at 4:48 AM, Bob Briscoe <in@bobbriscoe.net> wrote: > > Vidhi, > > You're right. It's incorrect to have the window reduction hanging off the end of the list of steps for updating the EWMA. > > To make this concrete, here's some specific additional text (in green for those with HTML mail readers). Also, rather than splitting into sub-subsections, I have suggested that Item 9. of the list in subsection 3.3 is moved out of the list, and instead forms the basis of a new subsection 3.4. entitled "Congestion Window Reduction". > > CURRENT: > ======== > 9. Rather than always halving the congestion window as described in > [RFC3168], the sender SHOULD update cwnd as follows: > > cwnd = cwnd * (1 - DCTCP.Alpha / 2) > > Just as specified in [RFC3168], DCTCP does not react to congestion > indications more than once for every window of data. The setting of > the CWR bit is also as per [RFC3168]. This is required for > interoperation with classic ECN receivers due to potential > misconfigurations. > > 3.4. Handling of Congestion Window Growth... > > SUGGESTED: > ========== > > 3.4. Congestion Window Reduction > Rather than always halving the congestion window as described in > [RFC3168], on the arrival of congestion feedback, the sender SHOULD > update cwnd as follows: > > cwnd = cwnd * (1 - DCTCP.Alpha / 2) > Just as specified in [RFC3168], DCTCP does not react to congestion > indications more than once for every window of data. Therefore, as > for RFC3168 ECN, it sets the variable for the end of congestion > window reduced (CWR) state to SND.UNA and suppresses further > reductions until this TCP sequence number is acknowledged. Periods > of CWR state are triggered by congestion feedback, and therefore > occur at times unrelated to the continuous cycle of observation > windows used to update DCTCP.Alpha in Section 3.3. > > The setting of the CWR bit is also as per [RFC3168]. This is > required for interoperation with classic ECN receivers due to > potential misconfigurations. > > 3.5. Handling of Congestion Window Growth... > > Then the of numbering all subsequent subsections of section 3. will increment by 0.1. > > > > Bob > > On 28/09/2021 08:18, RFC Errata System wrote: >> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8257, >> "Data Center TCP (DCTCP): TCP Congestion Control for Data Centers". >> >> -------------------------------------- >> You may review the report below and at: >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6697 <https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6697> >> >> -------------------------------------- >> Type: Technical >> Reported by: Vidhi Goel <vidhi_goel@apple.com> <mailto:vidhi_goel@apple.com> >> >> Section: 3.3 >> >> Original Text >> ------------- >> The below pseudocode follows after DCTCP.Alpha is updated on ACK processing. This is wrong as cwnd should only be reduced using DCTCP.Alpha when ECE is received. >> >> 9. Rather than always halving the congestion window as described in >> [RFC3168], the sender SHOULD update cwnd as follows: >> >> cwnd = cwnd * (1 - DCTCP.Alpha / 2) >> >> Corrected Text >> -------------- >> Instead, a new paragraph for Congestion Response to ECN feedback would be much clearer. First start with RFC 3168's response to ECE and then provide DCTCP's response to ECE. >> >> I am thinking splitting section 3.3 into two sub-sections - >> 3.3.1 Computation of DCTCP.Alpha >> 3.3.2 Congestion Response to ECE at sender >> >> >> >> Notes >> ----- >> Although RFC 8257 refers to RFC 3168 congestion window halving at step 9, but it is confusing to put it right after step 8. >> >> Instructions: >> ------------- >> This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please >> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or >> rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party >> can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. >> >> -------------------------------------- >> RFC8257 (draft-ietf-tcpm-dctcp-10) >> -------------------------------------- >> Title : Data Center TCP (DCTCP): TCP Congestion Control for Data Centers >> Publication Date : October 2017 >> Author(s) : S. Bensley, D. Thaler, P. Balasubramanian, L. Eggert, G. Judd >> Category : INFORMATIONAL >> Source : TCP Maintenance and Minor Extensions >> Area : Transport >> Stream : IETF >> Verifying Party : IESG >> >> _______________________________________________ >> tcpm mailing list >> tcpm@ietf.org <mailto:tcpm@ietf.org> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tcpm <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tcpm> > > -- > ________________________________________________________________ > Bob Briscoe http://bobbriscoe.net/ <http://bobbriscoe.net/>_______________________________________________ > tcpm mailing list > tcpm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tcpm
- [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8257 (6697) RFC Errata System
- Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8257 (6… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8257 (6… Neal Cardwell
- Re: [tcpm] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Technical Errata Repor… Praveen Balasubramanian
- Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8257 (6… Vidhi Goel
- Re: [tcpm] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Technical Errata Repor… Praveen Balasubramanian
- Re: [tcpm] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Technical Errata Repor… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8257 (6… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8257 (6… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8257 (6… tuexen
- Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8257 (6… Vidhi Goel
- Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8257 (6… tuexen
- Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8257 (6… t petch
- Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8257 (6… Martin Duke
- Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8257 (6… Martin Duke
- Re: [tcpm] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8257 (6… Vidhi Goel