Re: [tcpm] Is this a problem?

Lloyd Wood <L.Wood@surrey.ac.uk> Mon, 05 November 2007 21:16 UTC

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Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:16:13 +0000
To: Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU>, speakeasy <cait@asomi.com>
From: Lloyd Wood <L.Wood@surrey.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [tcpm] Is this a problem?
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At Friday 02/11/2007 15:26 -0700, Joe Touch wrote:

>speakeasy wrote:
>> 
>> On Nov 2, 2007, at 12:00 AM, MURALI BASHYAM wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>> Clearly there seems to be no consensus on where the problem lies. 
>>> I've heard that it's not a transport problem, and that the
>>> responsibility for mitigating the problem lies with a) sockets API, b)
>>> OS, and
>>> c) the application. That's as varied a response as one can get...
>>>
>> 
>> There is no need for TCPM to decide which of the three is the best
>> solution, since all
>> three solutions can interoperate on the wire.
>
>I agree - the fact that these all vary is less important to TCPM than
>the fact that none have anything to do with TCP.
>
>Yes, this is a problem for which a variety of solutions exist, and for
>which a coordinated solution would be useful. No, that itself is not
>justification for assuming TCP is the place to do this.

try this thought on for size:

"The need for congestion control is a problem for which a variety of solutions exist, and for which a coordinated solution would be useful. No, that itself is not justification for assuming TCP is the place to do this."

...but congestion control was put in TCP _anyway_. I still don't see what output behaviour algorithms have to do with on-the-wire header layout specifications, but that is all that is being discussed here.

L.

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