Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard errors -> soft errors (in synchronized states)
Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU> Fri, 30 September 2005 19:49 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard errors -> soft errors (in synchronized states)
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Fernando Gont wrote: > At 03:36 p.m. 30/09/2005, Joe Touch wrote: ... >> > "The strength of a chain is that of the weakest link", I mean. >> >> But TCP-antispoof explains that the chain is already sufficiently weak >> in many cases even if you try to fix ICMP. > > It's weak. But we are making it weaker unnecessarily. What's weaker than weak enough? (and why would we need to modify a core Internet protocol if it's still weak enough)? Joe
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- [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard errors … Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Lloyd Wood
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Jakob Heitz
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Lloyd Wood
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP attacks draft (issue 1): hard err… Joe Touch
- tcpm-antispoof and TCP's weakness [Re: [tcpm] ICM… Pekka Savola
- Re: tcpm-antispoof and TCP's weakness [Re: [tcpm]… Joe Touch
- Re: tcpm-antispoof and TCP's weakness [Re: [tcpm]… Pekka Savola